I've tried deleting /tmp/* (going even further than Crazy Diamond), I've removed all of the KDE 2.1 RPM's (per others' intructions), I've even edited the XftConfig file to insure that it wasn't some how misconfigured (causing some critical fonts not to be there). Nothing. That's right, Nothing has improved the situation. After redownloading KDE 2.1.1 for the 3rd time, it actually installed in YaST1 without pre-init errors, but alas that doesn't help the fact that after switching on AA, KDE crashes at Kicker startup. Additionally, no matter what I do child panels don't load their applets like they are suppose to on restarting KDE. I'm at a loss. KDE 2.1 works fine (it works even better with Qt 2.3), but KDE 2.1.1 just WON'T WORK! Now, granted KDE 2.1.1 doesn't have many feature improvements, and I don't have any instablity problems, but it bothers me that 2.1.1 is the ONLY, read ONLY, non-CVS version of KDE that hasn't installed for me. Infact pretty much every version (except the 1.9x series of betas) installed and worked within a few minutes. Should I try the KDE2 RPM's on ftp.suse.com? Are they different? Any other ideas? Thanks, Tim -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm Christian Web Services Since 1996 tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ============== "Information Powered by Innovation" ============== "AT&T: The pre-paid phone card. Jesus: The pre-paid life card."