Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (2974 mails)

["John" <john@xxxxxxxx>]

Generally speaking I upgrade every other release.  I've recently moved from
6.3 to 7.0.  My main motivation for that was:

1)  To get up to date with security fixes (I know I should have loaded them
from the net)

2)  Because I have an OnStream D130 tape drive and wanted a boot CD that
supported it natively (gives me a nice warm feeling of security :-)

The next time I upgrade will most likely be to load a distribution that
contains a more mature version of 2.4, KDE 2.1.*, native support for AA
fonts and Alphablending.  So I'll most likely skip 7.1.

John



-----Original Message-----
From: suse-linux-e-return-46923-john=jmtl.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:suse-linux-e-return-46923-john=jmtl.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Nick Zentena
Sent: 10 February 2001 15:14
To: Jonathan Wilson; suse-linux-e@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE is too High! (was RE: [SLE] SuSE Inc. Lay offs?)


On February  9, 2001 05:37 pm, Jonathan Wilson wrote:

>
> 1. Newly supported hardware (don't kid yourself, new hardware comes out
all
> the time)

	Fair enough but if you have a stable system then your hardware is likely
supported.  Not to mention waiting for a new release means around three
months or so. That assumes they actually include your hardware in the
upgrade. It can be much faster to just grab what you need.

2. Ever tried to get something like GNUcash working on SusE? it's
> more then a causal rpm -ihv. Somethings just don't work good. New SuSE
> means new packages that you didn't have before. Not everyone can fight
> through dependencies, and even fewer want to.

	Not Gnucash but plenty of other things. Most tend to be ./configure make.
Tarballs are often less hasle then the rpms.  Too many RPMS are redhat
centric with all the problems that brings.




> 4. Updates to XFree86 means more sported video cards, and new features,
> like, in 7.0's case, the first version of X 4.x with multiple monitor
> support, and in 7.1's case, many bugfixes to the "new" X version 4, plus
> new anti-aliasing fonts (er..right? I hope so)....yes, that matters to
> people like artists.

	All things many of us already have.  I've been running 4.0.2 since the week
it was released. The tarball from xfree86 was a breeze to install. From what
I hear the rpms weren't that easy to install.


>6. New version == new
> version of most packages (how many times have we seen people scream for
> perl 5.6 on this list?). Yes, people want new versions of packages because
> they'll have bug fixes and usually new features

	IMHO SuSE will always to be a little behind in most versions. They try and
test things. Throw in the CDs need to get burned and the version SuSE
releases can't be the latest and greatest. If you need the current version
it
is often best to just get it. You don't need to do that for everything but
for the things that matter to you.

>7.If you upgrade something
> as major as glibc you'll often have trouble with other packages. Same
with,
> say, a new versino of gcc. it's best to upgrade everything at once.

	Gcc isn't bad glibc can cause serious problems. Been there-))

	I still say most people don't really need to upgrade.  Every release people
complain that there isn't anything new in the release.  To me that means
they've upgraded too soon.  I'm not saying don't upgrade but I get the
impression plenty of people feel they must upgrade and that often isn't the
case.

Nick



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