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Re: [SLE] SuSE Inc. Lay offs?
- From: Samy Elashmawy <samelash@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 07:09:26 +0000
- Message-id: <18.104.22.168.20010210070926.00697718@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
You just dont get it , not every suse customer is a corperate big wig
wanting to put up a clinet SERVER , there are a whole bunch of us using it
in the low end area as well as on the desktop with older hardware.
Thats all I was pionting out , as well as how I got into linux.
At 09:20 PM 2/8/2001 -0800, Tim Hanson wrote:
>I can't figure out why these detractors jump on the price of SuSE
>Professional, comparing it to M$. Invariably they make the comparison
>based on the lowly client version of Win98. In truth, they should be
>comparing it to Windows 2000 Data Center, especially now with the 2.4
>kernel. How much does Microsoft charge for unlimited seats on that
>software, complete with all tools to manage the enterprise? With "Open
>Licensing?" Let's not forget that the customer is free to put Linux on
>as many boxes as desired, and burn as many CDs as necessary to
>accomplish the job, for $79.99. All they can't do is take YaST,
>recompile it with their own name, and sell the result as their own
>distribution. That's it.
>Samy Elashmawy wrote:
>> The high price of M$ is what lead me to linux , The other distros are
>> mostly two cd distros and not as packed as the suse distro. I ahvvve used
>> them since 5.3 and with there $79.99 pricing will most likely NOT update at
>> each new incremental release , but only on the major full relase and not
>> the dot relaese
>> At 11:11 AM 2/8/2001 -0600, Gary wrote:
>> >Hi Samy,
>> >On Thursday, February 08, 2001, 1:24 AM, you rearranged your electrons
>> >about "[SLE] SuSE Inc. Lay offs?":
>> >S> all the more reason to keep the BS factor and smoke and mirrors
stuff to a
>> >S> minimum. The reason I continue to buy suse is the rock solid product
>> >S> new two tone pricing structure does not make me happy. I have bought
>> >S> version since 5.3 most of them for $29.99 and am not happy with
>> >S> for M$ type pricing of 7.0 / 7.1
>> >$69 is far from MickySoft type pricing. Have you checked out what the
>> >W2K servers are going for, starting at lease $2000+ for small licenses
>> >... and any upgrade from M$ is costs more than far more than a full
>> >distro. Linux is not only a desktop application, but several other
>> >things rolled into one, i.e. NFS, webserver, firewall, DNS server,
>> >router, mail server, etc. You pay *extra* for all of these, in M$.
>> >SuSE's pricing is right in line with the other distros, unless you
>> >want the RH Pro which is $159 to $179 US - that is without hardly any
>> >software... You mainly get a web server and SSH... big deal.
>> >S> That and there new "strategy has turned off a LOT of LOYAL suse
>> >S> useres who put them there.I seems that they want to go closer to
>> >S> the enterprise big corperate customer and not there mainstay linux
>> >S> users of the past. If that does contimnue , I will look into
>> >S> another distro , most likely Debian.
>> >I disagree with you here about their pricing strategy. It is directly
>> >in line with any other distro on the store shelves... Check out Best
>> >Buy, or Office Max, or any of the others, $69 is the going rate here
>> >in the US for a powerpack or Pro version, and most don't have the
>> >complete manuals that SuSE has. Getting closer to enterprise, is the
>> >money backbone for any Linux company, as retail sales worldwide will
>> >not sustain corporate earnings. Profit comes from service. Linux per
>> >se is now in a position to really do damage to M$ enterprise corporate
>> >users because of the new 2.4 kernel. Memory is now fully supported up
>> >to 6.5 Gb, instead of 2MB, cluster and load balancing is enhanced, and
>> >most importantly the use of multiple processors is now fully
>> >supported, which enterprise has always used and needed. I believe
>> >that now up to 13 processors (from my poor memory) are now supported,
>> >and some have used far more with success...
>> >Best regards,
>> > Gary
>> >Today's thought: The right half of the brain controls the left half of the
>> body. This means that only left handed people are in their right mind.
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> WARNING TO ALL PERSONNEL:
>Firings will continue until morale improves.
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