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Re: [SLE] SuSE Inc. Lay offs?
- From: Jerry Kreps <jerrykreps@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:22:23 -0600
- Message-id: <01020815222307.19785@JLKreps>
Matt,
What do you do in computers/programming that pays that low?
The cost of living must be eating you alive in the bay area...
JLK
On Thursday 08 February 2001 11:28, Matthew wrote:
> Good points....
>
> Although I think your finger slipped on a decimal point when
> accounting the maximum memory of the 2.4 Kernel. Its at 64GB, kind
> of better than the previous 2GB limit, although not going to effect
> me for quite some time! I only make $32.5K a year in the bay area!
>
> Behind the scenes the 2.4 is literally a whole new re-write, the
> base of it is set out totally differently from 2.2, this led to
> some pains when I did an upgrade....
>
> Matt
>
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Gary wrote:
> > Hi Samy,
> >
> > On Thursday, February 08, 2001, 1:24 AM, you rearranged your
> > electrons about "[SLE] SuSE Inc. Lay offs?":
> >
> > S> all the more reason to keep the BS factor and smoke and
> > mirrors stuff to a S> minimum. The reason I continue to buy suse
> > is the rock solid product , the S> new two tone pricing structure
> > does not make me happy. I have bought every S> version since 5.3
> > most of them for $29.99 and am not happy with being hit S> for M$
> > type pricing of 7.0 / 7.1
> >
> > $69 is far from MickySoft type pricing. Have you checked out
> > what the W2K servers are going for, starting at lease $2000+ for
> > small licenses ... and any upgrade from M$ is costs more than far
> > more than a full distro. Linux is not only a desktop application,
> > but several other things rolled into one, i.e. NFS, webserver,
> > firewall, DNS server, router, mail server, etc. You pay *extra*
> > for all of these, in M$. SuSE's pricing is right in line with the
> > other distros, unless you want the RH Pro which is $159 to $179
> > US - that is without hardly any software... You mainly get a web
> > server and SSH... big deal.
> >
> > S> That and there new "strategy has turned off a LOT of LOYAL
> > suse S> useres who put them there.I seems that they want to go
> > closer to S> the enterprise big corperate customer and not there
> > mainstay linux S> users of the past. If that does contimnue , I
> > will look into S> another distro , most likely Debian.
> >
> > I disagree with you here about their pricing strategy. It is
> > directly in line with any other distro on the store shelves...
> > Check out Best Buy, or Office Max, or any of the others, $69 is
> > the going rate here in the US for a powerpack or Pro version, and
> > most don't have the complete manuals that SuSE has. Getting
> > closer to enterprise, is the money backbone for any Linux
> > company, as retail sales worldwide will not sustain corporate
> > earnings. Profit comes from service. Linux per se is now in a
> > position to really do damage to M$ enterprise corporate users
> > because of the new 2.4 kernel. Memory is now fully supported up
> > to 6.5 Gb, instead of 2MB, cluster and load balancing is
> > enhanced, and most importantly the use of multiple processors is
> > now fully supported, which enterprise has always used and needed.
> > I believe that now up to 13 processors (from my poor memory) are
> > now supported, and some have used far more with success...
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Gary
> >
> > Today's thought: The right half of the brain controls the left
> > half of the body. This means that only left handed people are in
> > their right mind.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> > For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@xxxxxxxx
> > Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
--
"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a
nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a
conviction in the minds of people that these liberties are a gift of
God? Thomas Jefferson - 1781
What do you do in computers/programming that pays that low?
The cost of living must be eating you alive in the bay area...
JLK
On Thursday 08 February 2001 11:28, Matthew wrote:
> Good points....
>
> Although I think your finger slipped on a decimal point when
> accounting the maximum memory of the 2.4 Kernel. Its at 64GB, kind
> of better than the previous 2GB limit, although not going to effect
> me for quite some time! I only make $32.5K a year in the bay area!
>
> Behind the scenes the 2.4 is literally a whole new re-write, the
> base of it is set out totally differently from 2.2, this led to
> some pains when I did an upgrade....
>
> Matt
>
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Gary wrote:
> > Hi Samy,
> >
> > On Thursday, February 08, 2001, 1:24 AM, you rearranged your
> > electrons about "[SLE] SuSE Inc. Lay offs?":
> >
> > S> all the more reason to keep the BS factor and smoke and
> > mirrors stuff to a S> minimum. The reason I continue to buy suse
> > is the rock solid product , the S> new two tone pricing structure
> > does not make me happy. I have bought every S> version since 5.3
> > most of them for $29.99 and am not happy with being hit S> for M$
> > type pricing of 7.0 / 7.1
> >
> > $69 is far from MickySoft type pricing. Have you checked out
> > what the W2K servers are going for, starting at lease $2000+ for
> > small licenses ... and any upgrade from M$ is costs more than far
> > more than a full distro. Linux is not only a desktop application,
> > but several other things rolled into one, i.e. NFS, webserver,
> > firewall, DNS server, router, mail server, etc. You pay *extra*
> > for all of these, in M$. SuSE's pricing is right in line with the
> > other distros, unless you want the RH Pro which is $159 to $179
> > US - that is without hardly any software... You mainly get a web
> > server and SSH... big deal.
> >
> > S> That and there new "strategy has turned off a LOT of LOYAL
> > suse S> useres who put them there.I seems that they want to go
> > closer to S> the enterprise big corperate customer and not there
> > mainstay linux S> users of the past. If that does contimnue , I
> > will look into S> another distro , most likely Debian.
> >
> > I disagree with you here about their pricing strategy. It is
> > directly in line with any other distro on the store shelves...
> > Check out Best Buy, or Office Max, or any of the others, $69 is
> > the going rate here in the US for a powerpack or Pro version, and
> > most don't have the complete manuals that SuSE has. Getting
> > closer to enterprise, is the money backbone for any Linux
> > company, as retail sales worldwide will not sustain corporate
> > earnings. Profit comes from service. Linux per se is now in a
> > position to really do damage to M$ enterprise corporate users
> > because of the new 2.4 kernel. Memory is now fully supported up
> > to 6.5 Gb, instead of 2MB, cluster and load balancing is
> > enhanced, and most importantly the use of multiple processors is
> > now fully supported, which enterprise has always used and needed.
> > I believe that now up to 13 processors (from my poor memory) are
> > now supported, and some have used far more with success...
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Gary
> >
> > Today's thought: The right half of the brain controls the left
> > half of the body. This means that only left handed people are in
> > their right mind.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> > For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@xxxxxxxx
> > Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
--
"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a
nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a
conviction in the minds of people that these liberties are a gift of
God? Thomas Jefferson - 1781
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