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Re: [SLE] SuSE Inc. Lay offs?
- From: Matthew <matthew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:28:05 -0800 (PST)
- Message-id: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0102080922560.1526-100000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Good points....
Although I think your finger slipped on a decimal point when accounting
the maximum memory of the 2.4 Kernel. Its at 64GB, kind of better than the
previous 2GB limit, although not going to effect me for quite some time! I
only make $32.5K a year in the bay area!
Behind the scenes the 2.4 is literally a whole new re-write, the base of
it is set out totally differently from 2.2, this led to some pains when I
did an upgrade....
Matt
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Gary wrote:
> Hi Samy,
>
> On Thursday, February 08, 2001, 1:24 AM, you rearranged your electrons
> about "[SLE] SuSE Inc. Lay offs?":
>
> S> all the more reason to keep the BS factor and smoke and mirrors stuff to a
> S> minimum. The reason I continue to buy suse is the rock solid product , the
> S> new two tone pricing structure does not make me happy. I have bought every
> S> version since 5.3 most of them for $29.99 and am not happy with being hit
> S> for M$ type pricing of 7.0 / 7.1
>
> $69 is far from MickySoft type pricing. Have you checked out what the
> W2K servers are going for, starting at lease $2000+ for small licenses
> ... and any upgrade from M$ is costs more than far more than a full
> distro. Linux is not only a desktop application, but several other
> things rolled into one, i.e. NFS, webserver, firewall, DNS server,
> router, mail server, etc. You pay *extra* for all of these, in M$.
> SuSE's pricing is right in line with the other distros, unless you
> want the RH Pro which is $159 to $179 US - that is without hardly any
> software... You mainly get a web server and SSH... big deal.
>
> S> That and there new "strategy has turned off a LOT of LOYAL suse
> S> useres who put them there.I seems that they want to go closer to
> S> the enterprise big corperate customer and not there mainstay linux
> S> users of the past. If that does contimnue , I will look into
> S> another distro , most likely Debian.
>
> I disagree with you here about their pricing strategy. It is directly
> in line with any other distro on the store shelves... Check out Best
> Buy, or Office Max, or any of the others, $69 is the going rate here
> in the US for a powerpack or Pro version, and most don't have the
> complete manuals that SuSE has. Getting closer to enterprise, is the
> money backbone for any Linux company, as retail sales worldwide will
> not sustain corporate earnings. Profit comes from service. Linux per
> se is now in a position to really do damage to M$ enterprise corporate
> users because of the new 2.4 kernel. Memory is now fully supported up
> to 6.5 Gb, instead of 2MB, cluster and load balancing is enhanced, and
> most importantly the use of multiple processors is now fully
> supported, which enterprise has always used and needed. I believe
> that now up to 13 processors (from my poor memory) are now supported,
> and some have used far more with success...
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Gary
>
> Today's thought: The right half of the brain controls the left half of the body. This means that only left handed people are in their right mind.
>
>
>
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>
Although I think your finger slipped on a decimal point when accounting
the maximum memory of the 2.4 Kernel. Its at 64GB, kind of better than the
previous 2GB limit, although not going to effect me for quite some time! I
only make $32.5K a year in the bay area!
Behind the scenes the 2.4 is literally a whole new re-write, the base of
it is set out totally differently from 2.2, this led to some pains when I
did an upgrade....
Matt
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Gary wrote:
> Hi Samy,
>
> On Thursday, February 08, 2001, 1:24 AM, you rearranged your electrons
> about "[SLE] SuSE Inc. Lay offs?":
>
> S> all the more reason to keep the BS factor and smoke and mirrors stuff to a
> S> minimum. The reason I continue to buy suse is the rock solid product , the
> S> new two tone pricing structure does not make me happy. I have bought every
> S> version since 5.3 most of them for $29.99 and am not happy with being hit
> S> for M$ type pricing of 7.0 / 7.1
>
> $69 is far from MickySoft type pricing. Have you checked out what the
> W2K servers are going for, starting at lease $2000+ for small licenses
> ... and any upgrade from M$ is costs more than far more than a full
> distro. Linux is not only a desktop application, but several other
> things rolled into one, i.e. NFS, webserver, firewall, DNS server,
> router, mail server, etc. You pay *extra* for all of these, in M$.
> SuSE's pricing is right in line with the other distros, unless you
> want the RH Pro which is $159 to $179 US - that is without hardly any
> software... You mainly get a web server and SSH... big deal.
>
> S> That and there new "strategy has turned off a LOT of LOYAL suse
> S> useres who put them there.I seems that they want to go closer to
> S> the enterprise big corperate customer and not there mainstay linux
> S> users of the past. If that does contimnue , I will look into
> S> another distro , most likely Debian.
>
> I disagree with you here about their pricing strategy. It is directly
> in line with any other distro on the store shelves... Check out Best
> Buy, or Office Max, or any of the others, $69 is the going rate here
> in the US for a powerpack or Pro version, and most don't have the
> complete manuals that SuSE has. Getting closer to enterprise, is the
> money backbone for any Linux company, as retail sales worldwide will
> not sustain corporate earnings. Profit comes from service. Linux per
> se is now in a position to really do damage to M$ enterprise corporate
> users because of the new 2.4 kernel. Memory is now fully supported up
> to 6.5 Gb, instead of 2MB, cluster and load balancing is enhanced, and
> most importantly the use of multiple processors is now fully
> supported, which enterprise has always used and needed. I believe
> that now up to 13 processors (from my poor memory) are now supported,
> and some have used far more with success...
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Gary
>
> Today's thought: The right half of the brain controls the left half of the body. This means that only left handed people are in their right mind.
>
>
>
> --
> To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@xxxxxxxx
> Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
>
>
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