casting my electrons to the solar winds ....casting my electrons to the solar winds .... Whelp, even if others have a big pipe and would prefer to get thier distro via ftp, that isn't a luxury I have. I will buy the box (pro , full release) , So I may as well buy it directly from suse. Problem is, there isn't a BUY or order form for 7.1 on the Suse site... must wait til Feb 12 to place an order? THen that could mean Amazon gets the money.... not a 100% reasonable way to do it , is it? As long as they lose money on each box, they should attempt to capture every penny from the sale of boxes that they can. ( I can't believe they get more money from selling thru a "catalog" or store than they do on thier own. If true there is a serious problem there somewhere.) Anyone have any idea when Suse will begin taking orders? or should I go to European site? or???? ( I'm gonna spend the cash ergo, it should go where it'll do the most good, ne? AS for all the other palaver , shikataganai, ne? Seems to me all "commercial" linux companies are still feeling thier way around. those that survive will be stronger and better, if not as responsive in future. Bigger isn't always better for the individual or even SOHO, take it from one burned badly by "Uncle" Lou Goerstner! Blondely