Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (2974 mails)

[Brian Galbraith <brian.galbraith@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 10:02:32AM +0000, Cliff Sarginson allegedly said:

> 
> Suse did not create Linux/GNU. They package it and include configuration
> facilities that they did write (and are not GPL'ed). I am not aware of
> any software packages that Suse have contributed back (X11 video drivers
> maybe ?).
> 
It is my understanding that SuSE pays developers to work full time on
projects  which are then contributed back to the community. They are
active in KDE, Reiser, and Kernel Development... There may be more?.

> It is very sad for the Suse people who lost their jobs.

I agree 100%

> This can happen to anyone working for a profit-hungry company.
> If this event has one beneficial side-effect it may make people
> realise that Suse is not the cuddly darling bunch of techno-geeks
> kindly contributing to world improvement that some people on this
> list seem to think they are.

See my comment above.
SuSE is not a *cuddly darling bunch of techno geeks*. It is a private
company, with bills to pay. And lets face it....the feed back from the
US is not terribly heartening as far as  business prospects are
concerned.
The description you gave may refer to Debian, as this is a non-profit
making organisation.If I wanted to use Dedian, I could pay a lot
less....but I don't.

I do not want to start a flame war...but I will make an observation
here.
As soon as a new release is announced...the list is usually flooded
with mail complaining about prices and requests for cheap CDs with no
support.Hardly encouraging for someone with bills to pay, especially
when it is already better value for money than anything else on the market.
Prior to version 7, I was paying almost double the US price, but I
wanted to use SuSE. I value the extra work put into the distribution.

>  
> Suse GMBH is a hard-nosed bunch of businessmen seeking to maximise
bucks at minimum cost.

With my heart I agree, but with my head I can not.The very strong
message coming from this list has been "I want more for less", and
support is not important.
> 
> I sincerely hope the people that Suse have just shoved on the pavement
> gets jobs soon. Their technical Linux expertise should not make that 
> difficult.

I concur with this.....the best of luck in the future, and my
apologies for any embarassment caused by this discussion.

Regards

Brian

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