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Re: [SLE] Re: New Distro Suggestions
- From: oldenburg@xxxxxxxxxxxx (matthew johnson)
- Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:47:19 -0700
- Message-id: <00101823033100.19978@mon-ami>
I personally think they have done a pretty good job thus far. I loved that
lapel pin! :-)
At first I did not like the fact there were two versions, but have come to like
it now though. Its still a great bargain considering what you are getting. Ever
open up a Red Hat deluxe server box? There manuals and programs are pretty
poor. Plus there are a few bugs that would have been noticed after 3 weeks of
testing, finally there is the matter of there inclusion of a new gcc that will
never be fully supported....All this leaves SuSE in a much stronger position! I
can guarantee they have lost some large customers......Or in the process of
Lets not confuse the market with a load of different SuSE packages, especially
if you can buy a basic no bells and whistles CD for so cheap. Or indeed free
with a magazine....
I am happy thus far with SuSE, especially as I managed to upgrade my P90 flakey
server without any problems (so flakey it is only stable on a 386 kernel!).
Redhat did not even install! One last thing I do dislike about Redhat is that
it is arrogant distro too IMHO, to me claiming to have won the distro "war" and
being number one really was pretty offensive.
PS I hope SuSE is glad that people are thinking up product ideas for free! Open
Source production? :-)
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Alan Lenton wrote:
> I think you are all missing out something very important. (Apart from the
> fact that SuSE needs to make enuff money to pay it's staff!)
> If the price is too cheap, then the retailers will simply not stock it. They
> expect ot make a certain amount of money on each unit of shelf they stock.
> If the price is too cheap, then the retailers can't make their margin so
> they go and look for a more expensive product to fill up their shelf space.
> But that isn't all. Production companies deal with distributors not
> retailers, I don't know what SuSE's deal with its distributors is, but based
> on my experience in the computer boxed games industry a few years back, I
> would guess the distributors are getting it at about 50% and selling it on
> to retailers at 67% of retail price.
> This has two implications. First SuSE are only getting half the money we pay
> over for the distribution, and second if there isn't enuff profit between
> the 50% the distributors pay for it and the 67% they sell it on for, or they
> won't take it.
> I don't work for SuSE, so I've no idea what the actual figures are but I
> suspect that the ones I've given are in the correct ball park. Pricing a
> product is a lot more complex than it appears on the surface...
> Alan Lenton
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