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RE: [SLE] OK Let's start a &quot;gosh darn it&quot; list for V7



With regards to the last post, I personally believe that a user in
the same user group as the undermentioned, i felt that when installing the
suse 6.3 for the first time i felt that installing everything would be a
good thing, but when all that had finished i realised that all that had been
installed was not relevant for me as a new user.
I'm thinking of getting into programing and when i see all the
different programming interpreters, i sometimes get confused, its good when
you ahve tonnes of information and software on your hands but i must agree
with lst poster when i he says that their maybe some sort of sercurity risks
when you have sofware installed and you dont know hell about the
implications of doing such thing.
Coming from a WINDOWZSH_T platform i know of instances as all of you
people here should know that their are alot af security issues when it comes
to WINDOWZSH_T. I.E easily hacked from any platform.
I say all this to say that the option of installing everything
should not be there for a new user. The installation program should be able
to let a user distinguish from a new user to a expert user installation.
Luckily i knew all this and began the long process of deleting all the
packages that i didnt need or wasnt intending to use.
From a 4 week old new user to all the other new users out there in
the list, you will all find that their is a big learning curve to be
overcomed when using linux for the first time. And to tell some truth in my
lst words here my reponse to this posting was out of my frustration,
curiosity, willinness to get something working even if it takes more that 8
hours sleeping time.

--- Original Message-----
From: S.J. Black [mailto:alphafemale@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 18 September 2000 23:34
To: Ben Rosenberg
Cc: SuSE Linux English
Subject: Re: [SLE] OK Let's start a "gosh darn it" list for V7

Quoth Ben:
> Installing "almost everything" is always a bad idea. It installs a
> great many things you will most likely never use and services that
> you won't use..and to keep track of all of that is a pain and a
> security risk. Install the software you are going to use ...

So, the next logical question is, "why does SuSE provide the option to
install 'almost everything'? Not to be a PITA, Ben, and i'm a big fan of
SuSE's work, but this is one of those things that makes one wonder if
new users are being set up to screw up. There will be new users who are
eager to check out *everything* that SuSE has to offer, and all at the
same time. Experience teaches us to do differently, but there are no up
front cautions against installing everything all at once. Might be a
good idea? There are cautions included with certain pieces of
software...

As for the rest of 7.0, i'm still waiting for the FTP version, as i had
to spring for 6.4 quite recently....and i won't go into the quality of
the media, but the software upgrades seemed promising enough. 8)

anyway...

Alpha


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