Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (2407 mails)

[weberdr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Darren R. Weber)]

Am I the only one that is sick of this lame ass flame war???

If you have a problem and need help, ask a question.  Otherwise shut the hell
up so the rest of us can get something done!

My mailbox doesn't need these types of messages any longer.  What a waste of
bandwidth. . . and I don't care if my message is hypocritical, someone has to
say "end it". 


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Darren R. Weber
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 lwr1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> > > downloaded, from the SuSE mirrors.  I had one box that the
> > > kernel upgrade (using the binary rpms, thank you very much)
> > > was a complete nightmare.  Another one, piece of cake. 
> > > Using the same files downloaded from a SuSE mirror, shared
> > > over the lan via nfs.  
> > Errrr, perhaps you forgot, running linux IS essentially beta testing...
> 
> That's a great excuse.  So when is it NOT going to be beta 
> testing?  Tomorrow?  After kernel 4?  
>  
> > > Oh, I know.  Now you are going to complain that we don't
> > > give specific examples.  But when I do, are you going
> > > shuffle me off w/ a 'why didn't you submit a bug report?'? 
> > > Why?  Because for one, these are pretty basic.  If SuSE was
> > > going to do something about them, I think they would have
> > > done it before the software came out, as there is little
> > > chance they could have missed them (I could be wrong)
> > Guess that means that SuSE has to re-author ALL software in the 
> > world. I think that project is going to start RIGHT after Microsoft 
> > starts writing bug-free software...
> 
> Well, it would be nice to be able to upgrade without worrying about
> whether my faxing is going to be completely broken or that 2 out of the 3
> popular GUI rpm tools will be broken.
> 
> > > > > 4)  Did everyone see the post from the poor guy who
> > > > > upgraded apache, (again, a SuSE upgrade) and it now
> > > > > doesn't work?
> > Didn't have a problem here myself with the same upgrade. Perhaps 
> > a bad install. Get a fair number of those with MS products at work 
> > (more windows machines than anything there), occasionally things 
> > go wrong on install and the installation isn't worth a campaign 
> > promise...
> 
> Well, considering your mailer you don't seem to use many Linux apps so
> you're not providing much of an example.
> 
> > > > There's ALWAYS someone where everything go wrong, and
> > > > (almost) always
> > > > it's NOT our fault.
> > Yes it is, ya didn't booby-trap the package to kill off idiots.
> > > > 
> > > > > What is going on here?  I cannot believe that SuSE is
> > > > > releasing 7.0 in 10 days, and their 6.4 is such a
> > > > > heap.  Or maybe that is the plan.....
> > Guess this guy never used Microsoft products...
> 
> So as long as we're not as crappy as MS products we're ok?  That seems to
> be your theme throughout your responses.
> 
> And back to my previous gripe, I'd like to not have a filesystem hyped 
> that isn't quite ready for primetime.  
> 
> Reading this discussion I think I'm starting to see the benefit of a
> limited set of well-tested apps like the BSDs rather than a ton of
> untested apps.
> 
> Greg

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