So, overall SuSE 7.0 adds a DVD (a cheap piece of plastic), and some more support, and now costs 30 bucks more? Before I go on, I should ask, was Chumbo one of the retailers that sold 6.x for $20-$30, or where they always more? I have to admit $54 sounds like a lot of money for a minor upgrade, and yet it is nice to get the manual. Seems to me, you'd manage just as well with a shorter support period and the manual (like it is now) than longer support period and no-manual (like the upgrade version). While I really like SuSE, but with the heated competition from those such as Mandrake (which also offers a wide variety of packages in their Deluxe version), it seems SuSE has eliminated one of it's major distinctive - bargain basement pricing on a full good-as-it-gets distro. Since I started using Linux, I've seen RedHat and Caldera (along with newer distros) all switch to expensive pricing systems (which bring upgrading a Linux system close to the cost of Win 98 upgrade) - this certainly doesn't seem to be a good precedent. It seems like the majority of those hear agree... I hope maybe SuSE will listen and consider releasing a version with the same support that 6.4 had - and the same price tag. I'd probably pass up the pro (and of course the pro-upgrade) and go for the kind we've been using and enjoying. I don't want to sound like I'm nagging, it just seems like a "one step forward, two steps backward" kinda thing, especially placing a program that gets updated every three months (SuSE) in the same price range as one that comes out no more than once a year (Windows 9x/ME Upgrade Edition, which is also all developed in-house, along with compiled, vs. just being compiled in house, like a Linux distro). Sorry... I quit ranting now. Don't mind me - I'll keep buying SuSE either way.... -Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" =====================
-----Original Message----- From: Arlen Carlson [mailto:adcarlso@visinet.ca] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 11:40 AM To: Michael Smith Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com; Cleary, Mike Subject: RE: [SLE] SuSE 7 Deluxe
That's what it appeared to me too...but carefully comparing the Professional and the Personal versions with what is provided now (6.4) shows that VMWare is a 30-day license on all of these! So no great news there, either.
On 08-Aug-00 Michael Smith wrote:
As far as I recall professional comes with a vmware licence
Mike
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Cleary, Mike wrote:
Whoa! I figured it would be a bit more expensive this time around... But not double the cost (even at Chumbo no less...). I doesn't seem to me you're getting that much more (i.e. more than in 6.4) for the extra cost. I would want more that the Personal edition (and I like getting the full manual), but I don't need the dvd. I don't have one, and don't know anyone who does...... Up through 6.4 I never even had to think about whether or not to buy the next incremental version, but not any more.
Still, I'll wait 'till it crops up in CompUSA and see what their price is, but right now it doesn't look encouraging. This is very disappointing.......:(
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-----Original Message----- From: Samy Elashmawy [mailto:samelash@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 4:12 AM To: Pep Serrano; suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE 7 Deluxe
At 04:06 PM 8/6/2000 +0200, Pep Serrano wrote:
Lenz,
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:18:02 +0200 (CEST), Lenz Grimmer wrote:
The DVD contains some more commercial packages that simply did not fit on the 6 CDs.
Hmmm, It seems like a ploy to hit custoemrs for more money. They just raised the price for what is basicly the same as 6.4 to make a deluxe package , and then trimmed it down to create a standard one at a cheaper price with only three cds.
I was more than willing to spring $29.99 for each new incremental version and heve been since 5.3 I will not be able to continue this pattern at $59.99 (www.chumbo.com) a pop. On top of that I still dont have a dvd either.It looks like I may just wait and see how stable 7.0 and may even wait for 7.1.
Does the CD include as well the whole 6 CDs? I feel usual that the users with DVD not only want some extra comercial packages, any DVD user would desire to avoid a 6CD installation.
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