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Re: [SLE] html software.
- From: bernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Bernd Felsche)
- Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 10:03:17 +0800 (WST)
- Message-id: <200006100203.KAA02856@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Adi Gadwale tapped away at the keyboard with:
> However, HTML can be pushed to make very visually appealing cross platform
> site (if you do not know think there are any _really cool sites_, please
> search slashdot.org for 'site design' and 'sites under 5k'). So why not
> push the boundaries and create sites with excellent content; layout;
> format and interactivity?
That's OK as long as you remain within the boundaries.
> I agree that such a site would not be visible in some browsers (lynx;
> emacs w3 etc.) so what? It would be arrogant to assume that any site would
> appeal to all audiences. What if I am authoring a site about the finer
It would IMHO be arrogant to assume that all those who might be
interested in my site would be using I browser I've known and
> aspects of graphic design? It caters to a different audience! A mac
A graphic-design site could support text-only browsers by putting
crucial content into downloadable images in a portable format. After
all; a graphic designer knows (or should know) that their creations
are going to look like crap on a significant proportion of
> enthusiasts web site does not have to be visible in a cell phone browser.
A Mac user doesn't always carry around the Mac. WAP-ability might be
important if they are tracking Mac-related news for example.
> A gnome support web site does not have to be visible in Internet Explorer!
That would be presumptuous, IMHO. However, it would be foolish to
rely on browser-specific features unless your aim is to gates the
> Also, it makes sense to write an html page by hand; not an entire site!
> Like somebody on this list previously stated, linux is free only if your
> time is worth nothing! Dreamweaver comes bundled with excellent site
> management tools. Try adding an extra navigation button to 50 pages in vi!
I believe that I'm not alone in using vi as a tool for generating
templates and content; then applying a set of (shell) tools to
generate a large number of pages. Having altered the template, (or
contents) it takes only seconds to regenerate pages with the
changed features. That's all that was necessary to change over 300
pages. Accessability validation can take about half an hour.
Such an environment is not for everybody. You might be comfortable
with it if you have a few years' experience with Unix tools and have
the tool-building mindset encouraged by Unix.
Others prefer to crack open the shrink-wrap and just trust the
package to do what they want.
Still others tread the ground in-between.
> I like vi as much as the next guy but I would rather design my web
> pages in Dreamweaver and do my java coding in emacs-jde-mode.
> It's all about choice and using the best tool for the job!
Which requires knowing how to use *all* the tools; an impossibility.
> I apologize if I have offended anybody; my aim is only to express my
> opinion; I have known to be wrong before.
Nobody is absolutely right, all the time.
Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning
Perth, Western Australia
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