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Re: [SuSE Linux] Desktop Managers
- From: paulf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Paul M. Foster)
- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 03:30:18 -0500 (EST)
- Message-id: <Pine.LNX.4.02A.9903100320380.5013-100000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
> zentara wrote:
> > At 3/9/99 4:27:00 PM, you wrote:
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I don't want to start a 'Bandwidth wasting desktop holy war', but for
> > >many users customizing their work environment by editting fvwm<nn>
> > >configuration files is just not friendly enough.
> But.... you will anyway... ;->
> > Hi, I use fvwm2 exclusively. I start everything in an xterm that is
> > not on the menu. I even have a custom background screen
> > which is set by 1 line in fvwm2.rc file.
> > Simplicity is EASY. What complicates things are all the different
> > desktops. They are pretty, but they complicate things and
> > cause problems.
> Not really. KDE - right mouse, select program. Wheel icon appears on
> desktop. Right mouse it, select properties. Rename default prefix to
> desired desktop name. Click execute tab and browse to find executable
> file or script. Browse for icon graphic. Click last tab and select
> executable type. Presto! Done.
> > I think it would be easier for me to show a new user how to
> > right click on the desktop, create a new xterm, type in the program
> > they want, then hit <alt-F4> to minimize the xterm.
> Except there is a lot of typing and path changing to do every time you
> want to run a pgm, and you know how fuddle-fingered one can get at
> times. Doing this over and over may be a learning situtation the first
> one or two times, but after that it is a pain in the .... fingers.
> With a desktop icon you make it. Once. Then click it any time you want
> to run what the icon represents.
> > It never locks up.
> KDE never gives me a problem. Period.
I'd have to agree about KDE. I have had it lock up, but I had about ten
different programs running at once, including Netscape.
If you're going to have to do all this typing, you might as well be on a
console instead of X Windows. If I'm going to use a GUI, it might as well
be really GUI (gooey?). I prefer the console to X, but when I'm in X, I'd
rather not open a terminal window so I can launch programs and such. Just
point, click, drag, etc.
Also, you're looking at two different paradigms. For newbies, KDE is most
like what they're probably coming from (M$ Windows). These people are
acutely afraid of the command line. Having to do stuff in xterm is
combining two dissimilar paradigms, which would be daunting at least.
Nothing against fvwmx, but you do have to do a lot of xterm and rc file
twiddling in it, which doesn't exactly fit with that GUI look and feel.
Paul M. Foster
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