Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (720 mails)

[djb@xxxxxxxxxx (Donnie Barnes)]

> My post wasn't an attack on redhat, merely the observations of a former redhat 5
> user.  Looking at your host mask I understand why you feel the need to defend
> redhat,  but don't be so defensive.  If you have read any of my previous posts you
> would know that I believe we all benefit by having several quality dists to choose
> from.  I love SuSE, hence I subscribe to this mailing list to offer and recieve
> help related to this outstanding distribution, and as a general source of
> information I might not get otherwise.  I was careful to mention that I wasn't
> attacking redhat.  The last thing this mailing list needs is a flame war.

I wasn't intending to be very defensive, just point out some facts.  

You said that perhaps it wasn't ready for the public.  Well, in the Linux
community the public are the beta testers.  That's just the way this model
works.  With something like glibc there is *no* way to test it without
building a complete distribution on it.  We certainly did do some pretty
exhaustive testing on our own (including four public betas) and then we 
had to release.  It's only after a real release that you get a full 
compliment of testing.  

Basically, my point is that you said it wasn't "ready for the public".
That's just not right...at some point it has to go out.  Look at the
Linux 2.0.0 kernel for a prime example...Linus did everything humanly
possible, but you just don't get the kind of testing you need until
*everyone* tries it.  Like the kernel, we have updates to fix the 
problems and now 5.0 *is* ready for the public.  5.1 will be even better.

I'm not upset by what you said, I just wish folks would qualify things
a bit more...you made it look like we did a poor job with 5.0.  I don't
feel we did even though I do agree there were problems that we would 
have rather fixed before they went out.  But you don't know about them
until mass testing happens.

Note that I'm not comparing RH with SuSE in any of this.  There is no 
need to...SuSE certainly does some very good work in the free software
community and we at Red Hat appreciate it.  I just didn't like the
characterization of Red Hat.  Trust me, we're all still friends here.
This is Linux and the only way we'll beat our real enemy is by working
together.

--Donnie


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