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Re: [suse-xfree86] Bug in sax2 in combination with ATI-drivers - long lasting issue for me - SuSE 9.3
- From: Dieter Jurzitza <dieter.jurzitza@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:59:15 +0000 (UTC)
- Message-id: <200601021821.34337.dieter.jurzitza@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Dear Mr. Hopf,
> > > sax2 -r -m 0=firegl -b /usr/share/doc/packages/fglrx/sax2-profile
>
> It should read sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx
> Nothing more.
please take a look into /usr/share/doc/packages/firegl/README.SuSE
as extracted from the latest ATI driver package (8.20.8, similar on older
ones). I cite:
*************************************************************************
ATI fglrx driver configuration (including 3D support)
-----------------------------------------------------
Switch to runlevel 3 ("init 3") and use the following command as user
"root" to configure the ATI fglrx driver (including 3D support).
sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx -b /usr/share/doc/packages/fglrx/sax2-profile
On (open)SUSE 10.1 (Alpha) or later it's no longer required to
specify the profile, so use "sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx" instead.
*************************************************************************
since I explicitly denoted that I am using SuSE 9.3 I cannot know about your
suggestion. The doc references SuSE 10.1 which is - to all my knowledge -
experimental. README.SuSE should be the reference, shouldn't it? So, please
recheck with ATI on this if the README.SuSE is not in tune with what SuSE
recommends.
>
> > > is exactly what SuSE recommends for configuration - if this does not
> > > work, it should be considered a bug, isn't it?
>
> The thing you are experiencing is a bug in the fglrx driver. OpenSUSE
> bugzilla #115281. SL10.0 should work by not including any modelines.
>
> > > I am listening to the xfree-mailing list for a while now, but I haven't
> > > seen any commentary there saying, "hey, if you run into this or that
> > > trouble, try this ...". Maybe some readme's with options what and how
> > > to test would be helpful, too.
>
> If you havn't seen any tipps, then this might indicate that it just (TM)
> works (TM)? ;)
Hmmm. Not so sure about this. I have three computers with three different ATI
cards (Radeon 9600XT, Radeon 8500, Radeon 9200) from two different vendors
all showing the same effect and I am the dummy? No, cannot think so. Maybe
this is an issue of large monitors, as Curtis mentioned in his mail, too. I
am using montitors like Elsa Ecomo 750 and large HP displays, the maximum
(and "working") resolution setting is 1600x1200.
Since my OS is not an Opensuse OS I did not search within the Opensuse bug
tracking data base - maybe that was wrong.
>
> > I agree overall - the doc should be updated if this is a persistent or
> > pervasive problem.
>
> Where did you actually get the command line from?
See above. It stems from the README.SuSE that is being installed by the ATI
driver.
So, thanks for your commentary, but I am still convinced that there is a need
for some apropriate documentation. Even more if there are differences between
your suggestions and what is being written down in a README.SuSE distributed
with the software. Putting modelines into a file with dotclocks of more than
0.4 GHz is questionable at least. The question is, who puts them into the
xorg.conf and who is verifying plausibility. This is not transparent to me as
the user.
Once again: I did not report this for fun. And even though you seem to
mistrust, there are other people perceiving similar issues. So, the lowest
level of discussion would be to take things serious, isn't it?
Take care
Dieter Jurzitza
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> > > sax2 -r -m 0=firegl -b /usr/share/doc/packages/fglrx/sax2-profile
>
> It should read sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx
> Nothing more.
please take a look into /usr/share/doc/packages/firegl/README.SuSE
as extracted from the latest ATI driver package (8.20.8, similar on older
ones). I cite:
*************************************************************************
ATI fglrx driver configuration (including 3D support)
-----------------------------------------------------
Switch to runlevel 3 ("init 3") and use the following command as user
"root" to configure the ATI fglrx driver (including 3D support).
sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx -b /usr/share/doc/packages/fglrx/sax2-profile
On (open)SUSE 10.1 (Alpha) or later it's no longer required to
specify the profile, so use "sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx" instead.
*************************************************************************
since I explicitly denoted that I am using SuSE 9.3 I cannot know about your
suggestion. The doc references SuSE 10.1 which is - to all my knowledge -
experimental. README.SuSE should be the reference, shouldn't it? So, please
recheck with ATI on this if the README.SuSE is not in tune with what SuSE
recommends.
>
> > > is exactly what SuSE recommends for configuration - if this does not
> > > work, it should be considered a bug, isn't it?
>
> The thing you are experiencing is a bug in the fglrx driver. OpenSUSE
> bugzilla #115281. SL10.0 should work by not including any modelines.
>
> > > I am listening to the xfree-mailing list for a while now, but I haven't
> > > seen any commentary there saying, "hey, if you run into this or that
> > > trouble, try this ...". Maybe some readme's with options what and how
> > > to test would be helpful, too.
>
> If you havn't seen any tipps, then this might indicate that it just (TM)
> works (TM)? ;)
Hmmm. Not so sure about this. I have three computers with three different ATI
cards (Radeon 9600XT, Radeon 8500, Radeon 9200) from two different vendors
all showing the same effect and I am the dummy? No, cannot think so. Maybe
this is an issue of large monitors, as Curtis mentioned in his mail, too. I
am using montitors like Elsa Ecomo 750 and large HP displays, the maximum
(and "working") resolution setting is 1600x1200.
Since my OS is not an Opensuse OS I did not search within the Opensuse bug
tracking data base - maybe that was wrong.
>
> > I agree overall - the doc should be updated if this is a persistent or
> > pervasive problem.
>
> Where did you actually get the command line from?
See above. It stems from the README.SuSE that is being installed by the ATI
driver.
So, thanks for your commentary, but I am still convinced that there is a need
for some apropriate documentation. Even more if there are differences between
your suggestions and what is being written down in a README.SuSE distributed
with the software. Putting modelines into a file with dotclocks of more than
0.4 GHz is questionable at least. The question is, who puts them into the
xorg.conf and who is verifying plausibility. This is not transparent to me as
the user.
Once again: I did not report this for fun. And even though you seem to
mistrust, there are other people perceiving similar issues. So, the lowest
level of discussion would be to take things serious, isn't it?
Take care
Dieter Jurzitza
--
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|
\
/\_/\ |
| ~x~ |/-----\ /
\ /- \_/
^^__ _ / _ ____ /
<°°__ \- \_/ | |/ | |
|| || _| _| _| _|
if you really want to see the pictures above - use some font
with constant spacing like courier! :-)
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