Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-wiki (395 mails)

[DenverD <DenverD@xxxxxxxx>]

Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On 26.07.2010 17:26, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
> > On 2010-07-26 17:20:24 +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> > > On 26.07.2010 17:05, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
> > >
> > > > can we please add a policy that every migrated page has to have the
> > > > redirect page for its old name? And on top of that add the redirects
> > > > for all pages that are already migrated?
> > > You want the old wiki back with no focus on readers, no maintainable
> > > structure, no help for contributors, no standards.
> > >
> > > We are more than happy to help fixing the external links or fixing weak
> > > points in the new wiki.
> > i just want the old links to work
> > [redirect]
> >
> > nothing more.
>
> Yes and that makes the wiki unmaintainable for us. You can't have an
> overview over pages in the namespaces, the structure becomes foggy for
> the contributors, redirects get a method (for instance people create
> pages and add redirects for the red links on the pages instead of fixing
> the links etc.). You don't have to maintain it right? We have to and we
> tell you that we don't want that. Why is it so hard to accept that?
>
> > > Simply going back is no option, sorry.
> > you wanna know why i wrote that mail? because i had to tell 3 people
> > within one minute that our current buildservice doc links are broken and
> > had to give them the correct links instead.
>
> Then fix them? Nevermind, i just did. Took me a couple of minutes. See
> the buildservice list for a patch.
>
> > and no we cant fix all places where someone might link to us.
> >
> > and to make it worse ... you wanna print out all the suse books again
> > with the wiki links fixed?
> >
> > I could understand your thinking when the wiki would make it utterly
> > hard to maintain the backwards compatibility. but it is damn easy to do
> > so.
>
> Again: We don't doubt that its easy to create redirects. We don't doubt
> that broken links need fixing. We don't doubt that the search is shitty.
> We just don't want to implement your solution because it will make a
> huge part we worked hard for (making the wiki maintainable for us) moot.

i'm really happy you went to all this effort to make it easy to
maintain...

to make it easy for you to maintain..

to make your Contribution easier..

too bad no one seemed to consider (or wants to try and relieve now)
the extra work caused **everyone** else to make it easier for you.


> Can you please accept that? Thanks

no, because i have dozens and dozens of links to information that i
used to find in seconds....and, with the (thank you) completely
useless search i can't find stuff....just not smart enough to wade
through all the broken links, "this page does not exist" blah blah blah..

here is a reference to ONE list i used to use many times daily:

http://forums.opensuse.org/english/community/opensuse-wiki-discussions/442990-broken-link-recovery-service.html#post2196258

DenverD
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