Then I will move it myself. jdd, It's not that I want to attack you, I'm not calling you useless. Probably 90% off the people working around openSUSE have more contribs then me. But if you come with problems, make it short facts. one by one, explain how to do it better and if it makes sense we can do something about it. Just writing endless complaints isn't motivating anybody to listen to you and do something about it. I'm just saying, redesigning the namespace again, it's far to late for that, so it's useless to discuss it. Yes, the main namespace should be like a brochure, but no, it is certainly not the working domain of the wiki team. We got other tings going on, like transferring more articles to make the wiki more complete. If we would like to restrict the pages, we would make it protected. You and anyone can edit all namespaces, there are only certain rules to follow, to give it a more organized structure than it was. And the hostile feeling about SDB: I know where it comes from, it used to be a namespace full of not updated articles and only to be used by experts. The new wiki is a nice opportunity to change this. Make it more complete and make it a real Support Database. See it as one big helpfile. I changed to this subject, since we like to use the Transferring Articles thread for quick questions to each other, while doing the job: transferring articles, with the structure how it is now. If somebody heads in trouble, he uses that thread. It's not meant for this discussions. If you are actually transferring an article and you have a question about it, or trouble, use that thread. For anything else, find or create another thread.
Why? what's so hard about it? Type search, if the article doesn't exist, you click the red link in the search results, done!
and go to the main namespace? Is that the good way? (I hope so :-)
No, because if you look for a how to or support article, you search
with SDB: If it doesn't show up, you can create it with SDB: prefix,
if that of course what you are looking for. And typing SDB: can be
used for people who know that support articles are located under SDB.
People who don't know (are usually people that came around just a
couple of times) go to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Support and
search under Problem Solutions. So they don't have to worry about the
SDB prefix.
Greetings, Tim
2010/7/16 jdd
Le 16/07/2010 10:10, Tim Mohlmann a écrit :
You already checked http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki there it's perfectly explained to you,
are you kidding?
"prominently the main namespace (with no prefix) for the _presentation_ of the latest openSUSE Distribution, think of it as the product _brochure_"
is that the place "anyone can write here"? as I will probably do if I clic the red link as you say?
if so this should be said clearly, I have no problem with it. In my comprehension such sentence mean "don't touch if you are not from the wiki team".
explain more on a certain item, like namespaces. It may have helped if you had reed the news: http://news.opensuse.org/2010/07/08/the-devil-is-in-the-details/
I did. The only namespace that seems to fit my needs is SBD, and if this didn't change it's all but friendly! I already wrote articles for SDB, and I tend to avoid it as much as possible. May be this have changed! it would be good,
I started to work on the new wiki 3
weeks ago and it took 1 day to undestand
don't you think "one day to understand" is way more than most people can afford? I know *I* couldmanage it (after all I was one of the first on the initial wiki), but the goal is to attract as much people as possible.
Search for Blu Ray on the wiki returns nothing (and google site:en.opensuse.org blu ray don't help)
Well, then there's nothing wrong with our search engine then he?
not sure. Blu ray is one of the main feature of the new 11.3, I'm sure I read this on a page, but no search engine found it :-(
writing in complaint e-mails, you already should have already have 3 articles finished!
is that enough: http://old-en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Jdd
but I don't want to begin with the new wiki making a mess :-(
Why? what's so hard about it? Type search, if the article doesn't exist, you click the red link in the search results, done!
and go to the main namespace? Is that the good way? (I hope so :-)
We have this system, with the reviewing process, which you complained about in an earlier mail.
no. I complain not knowing where to start. I try not to start on the middle of an well organised stuff!
knew about this wiki transition long ago. Long enough to help out in the painful and slow progress of transferring articles.
I want to help transferring the pages linked from my own user page. I work full time for the french forum and wiki (and some other things Linux related also)
sorry if tghis is not exactly the good thread, But I couldn't think of a better title :-(
You are right, not the good tread,
well? it's about transfering pages!
we are trying to work here with
practical things. If you'd wish to continue this discussion open a new thread for this: Complaints
better not read that. We have to better know each other
I just try to point things that don't work well. How can you make them better if not?
jdd
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