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Re: [opensuse-wiki] What will happen to Wiki after June 1st. ?
- From: "Matthew Ehle" <mehle@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 08:13:36 -0600
- Message-id: <4BF4EF30020000440007C72D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
There is only one IP address for www.opensuse.org and the entire wiki farm. We
are using Named Virtual Hosts to determine which site is served. Specifically,
we are using VirtualHost Alias to serve the wiki farm. None of the sites have
the 'name' of the IP Address, which is why you get the error when trying to use
it. For more information, you can reference the following:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#namevirtualhost
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_vhost_alias.html
Since there is only one DNS entry for everything, that leaves us a lot of
flexibility in how we handle the old English wiki. We can decommission it
completely, move it to another name, or simply remove the VirtualHost entry,
but leave the content 'just in case'.
Matthew Ehle
Web Engineer
Application Development & Maintenance
Affiliated Computer Services, Inc
A Xerox Company
Office Phone: (801) 861-2722
mehle@xxxxxxxxxx
First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who engage in and work hard onSatoru Matsumoto <helios_reds@xxxxxxx> 5/19/2010 11:08 PM >>>
the transition of Wiki.
I'm sorry if I missed important announcements and discussions on this
list, but some things are still not quite clear to me.
1. After June 1st., when DNS entry for en.o.o will be switched, how can
we reach the contents that are on the old instance (current en.o.o)
and {aren't,won't be} transfered to the new instance?
<Off Topic>
BTW, is it really 'DNS entry switch'? 'nslookup' tells me that IP
address of both wiki.o.o and en.o.o are same - 130.57.4.24 - ATM,
and when I tried to open http://130.57.4.24/Main_Page , Firefox
shows me the message '300 Multiple Choices - Your request could
not be processed for this multi-homed web site because no host
header was present that identifies which host to access'. So, it
might be an Apache configuration issue. ;-)
</Off Topic>
2. What will be needed for $LANG.o.o as soon as possible after June
1st.?
Is there any list, on which we can see which pages are expected to
be updated on each $LANG.o.o promptly after the transition of
en.o.o? Pages which are listed in 'Mandatory pages' on
'Help:Translation' are just enough?
http://wiki.opensuse.org/Help:Translation#Mandatory_pages
I think many problems will be expected to occur after the
transition. For example, since names of many pages on en.o.o will be
moved to new names in accordance with the new concepts, many
Interwiki links (at least, link to English page) in existing pages
on $LANG.o.o will no longer work, and, since the version of
MediaWiki and many templates are updated for en.o.o, when we create
a new translation page on $LANG.o.o by copying the wiki source from
the original page on en.o.o and pasting it to $LANG.o.o, the layout
might be broken.
3. Any deadlines or milestones for transition of $LANG.o.o are assumed?
I read the thread 'German Wiki & Multi-Language Concept' on the
archive of this list
http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-wiki/2010-04/msg00002.html
and noticed that 'creating a new languages-server
languages.opensuse.org serving as a temporary instance for initial
translation efforts' is proposed. Will it be realized and
translators will be able to use those temporary instances for their
transition? If not, when will all the $LANG.o.o be switched to new
instance (I mean, when the version of MediaWiki for $LANG.o.o will
be updated), or, will they remain as they are now?
There may be many other things we have to think of for transition of
$LANG.o.o, but I don't think they are clear to translators ATM.
Isn't it about time we start to think of what are necessary after June 1st.?
Best,
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