Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-wiki (44 mails)

["Rajko M." <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Saturday 06 March 2010 07:54:40 Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 03/05/2010 06:41 AM, Rajko M. wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 March 2010 06:58:21 Thomas Schmidt wrote:
> > > I transferred the openFATE pages to the new wiki, and
> > > briefly discussed with henne where to put them.
>
> [...]
>
> > So, openSUSE:Tools/Openfate/ is no go, IMHO.
> >
> > What would be better? (it doesn't mean it is optimal)
> >
> > Make http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tools that is currently empty page
> > index of all tools, and for now enter only one item openSUSE:openFATE.
>
> Yeah everybody (including me) tries to use URLs as sorting mechanism
> which is pretty stupid because you never have all the URLs at hand. 

:)
Although I'm very loud against that practice, I have to think to avoid it. 
It appears so easy to understand, but it produces so many problems that 
Wikipedia removed it from Main namespace, but not (Main)Talk namespace. 
For those not familiar with use of namespace in MediaWiki software:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Namespace 

> But
> instead of openSUSE:Tools we should make Portal:Tools and guide through
> that. Its the perfect topic for a portal. So Main page ->
> Portal:Development -> Portal:Tools -> openSUSE:openFATE.

+1

> > Another option is to use Main namespace as openFATE is something that
> > users should know about
>
> Again, please leave the main namespace to the product pages of the
> current distribution. 

:) 
I agree on Main. 
It will make it relative small, but we can extend purpose of Help namespace. 
To me it makes perfect sense to use Help: for all articles that talk about 
distro/project infrastructure. 

At the same time we need a more detailed list of topics that should go to the 
Main as right now with "current distribution" as definition, even I'm puzzled 
what exactly should go there, as you may noticed from previous post.

> openFATE is by no means important for users of the distribution!
 
It seems that our understanding of "users of the distribution" is not the same 
:)

The openFATE as metaphor for discussions about distro features is not 
important to passive users, but for those that want more it is the way to ask 
questions and learn about distribution, in other words to participate with 
something that everyone understand, and that is how majority of contributors 
started.

All articles can be listed in Portal:openFATE, but access to that portal 
should additionally go trough Portal:Distribution > Portal:Services, or if 
there will be not too many entries then directly trough Portal:Distribution > 
panel about services that openSUSE provides to users.

> Henne

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Regards Rajko,
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