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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki Transition + Next Meeting
by Rupert Horstkötter 05 Dec '09

05 Dec '09

Team, as a follow-up to the thread "ATTENTION: please keep organization in mind" I posted one week ago to the list, I'd like to summarize what we have and what we need to do next. 1. Rajko did in awesome job with the evaluation of FlaggedRevs extension and his result is promising. If there are no complaints, we'll use this extension for our QA process in combination with the Wiki Forum at forums.o.o I currently take care of (see 1a). Rajko provided a showcase of FlaggedRevs at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Extension_FlaggedRevs General information is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs 1a. I myself discussed the creation of the Wiki Forum (see 1) at forums.o.o with the Forums Team and it now should be just a matter of bureaucracy it get it live - I got great support from the Forums Team here. The current request is to press the button once we need the Wiki Forum in place. 2. Rajko, Shayon and Remy already made good progress with the wiki-templates. The result is available at http://en.opensuse.org/Template and http://en.opensuse.org/Daily_templates. We still need to think about an article-template to ensure a consistent look&feel of Tutorial pages. 3. As soon as possible I'll get started with the creation of the Guidelines. I'd appreciate any helping hand interested in contributing here. We need to explain the proper Wiki Usage, the creation of articles from a design, formulation, conception and syntax perspective. The Templates need to be linked and the QA Process (FlaggedRevs in combination with the Wiki Forum) need to be explained in detail. I'll definitely need input from Wiki Seniors to explain the one or the other aspect. 4. If there are no complaints, we'll go for Henne's 3rd approach to start with a new instance from scratch, move just the content we want while taking care of a consistent look&feel, the conformity of Tutorials with the principles defined in the Guidelines and the Content Structure Henne proposed earlier (i.e. a variant of that). For your reference, here it is once again: Main -> Portal:11.2 -> /Features -> /Screenshots -> /Screenshots/KDE -> /Screenshots/UserDesktops -> /Press -> /SDB -> SDB:ASUS_WL-160N_USB_Wireless_Adapter -> keep older versions in $VERSION namespace e.g. 11.1:Features and 1.11:Screenshots/GNOME -> Portal:Project -> Project:Guiding Principles -> Project:Teams -> Project:Teams/Boosters_Team -> Project:Teams/Boosters_Team/Tasks -> Project:Teams/GNOME -> Project:Teams/GNOME/Submitting_Bugs -> Project:Communication -> Project:Communication/Mailinglists -> Project:Communication/Mailinglists/Etiquette -> Project:Communication/Forums -> Project:Communication/IRC -> Project:Communication/Meetings -> Project:Communication/Meetings/Archive -> Project:Tools -> Project:Tools/Build Service -> Project:Tools/Build_Service/Concepts -> Portal:Wiki -> Meta::Structure -> Meta:Structure/Templates -> Meta:Structure/Namespaces -> Meta:Styleguide Remaining task here is to come up with transition guidelines. Petr/Henne? Shoud we do this in collaboration? 5. Frank needs input about http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team/Requested_Extensions in order to get started with the fresh instance - we certainly need FlaggedRevs as our QA flagship but please provide input about the rest in order to support Frank. 6. Once we have everything in place and the new instance up and running we need to get started with http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team/Checked_Pages - select what we'd like to transfer, assure consistent design and categorize it into the new structure while utilizing the templates. So far the organizational things... That said, I'd like to schedule the next Meeting to get everyone involved on IRC to be able to discuss the Transition and steps we need to take care of in a real time conversation. In contrast to our last Meeting I'd appreciate very much to have all Wiki Seniors attending along with the Boosters, Henne and Frank. Thus I won't schedule until I got input about availability of all parties - please tell me what time during the week is most appropriate for you. I myself prefer to schedule on CET evening to assure a sufficient time for american and indian participants (Shayon) while still have a sufficient time for european participants in place. Please, let's approximately target end of next week OR beginning of the week after next week. Thanks in advance for your support - I try to come up with a date/time that's appreciated by all parties. Best, R -- Rupert Horstkötter openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Request to create the Slovak wiki pages, again
by Rastislav Krupanský 01 Dec '09

01 Dec '09

Hi. I demanded to create sk.opensuse.org wiki pages last year - http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki/2008-11/msg00000.html. All translations needed for creating them was finished, but the pages aren´t created yet. What´s the problem? -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] RFC:Title capitalization on the openSUSE wiki
by Rajko M. 01 Dec '09

01 Dec '09

We've discussed which style of capitalization should be used on our wiki. Couple of years ago I changed requirement to use Wikipedia style and gave example of "Benefits of Open Office" and "Benefits of open office" as sample where first can't make difference between institution called Open Office and work style that keeps some office open in some way, while Wikipedia style is clear in that proper noun is written capitalized, and all other nouns not. The currently active Wiki Team is for Wikpedia style, but as we are not alone on the wiki, we need more opinions. -- Regards Rajko, openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] PDF links on en.o.o broken
by Christian Boltz 27 Nov '09

27 Nov '09

Hello, I just noticed that the PDF links on en.opensuse.org/Linuxtag are broken. They contain a black square at the bottom-right and are no longer clickable. Can someone with more experience with the template used for those links please look at it (and fix it ;-) ? Regards, Christian Boltz -- > [1] Schmerzen wg. einer Zerrung > -- > Nicht alles, was hinkt, ist ein Vergleich. In manchen Fällen ist es auch ein David Haller... *SCNR* [> David Haller und Mario van der Linde in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Wiki Forum
by Rupert Horstkötter 23 Nov '09

23 Nov '09

Shayon, I send a copy to the list as the information about the final approval of the Wiki forum from the Forums team is certainly interesting for the whole team ... That said, 2009/11/20 Shayon Mukherjee <hkwarlock(a)gmail.com>: > Hello, > Rupert Horstkötter wrote: >> Shayon, >> Well, the usual business of a Forums Moderator. Moderate Discussions >> when needed. Assure sufficient behaviour of Forums' participants >> conform with the T&C and react on violation of those. Merge threads >> and delete spam and so on and so forth. This certainly just applies to >> the Wiki Forum, not to the Forums as a whole. >> >> Best, >> R >> >> > Thanks Rupert for your reply.I seem to be interested in this task.But i > dont have any experience with the being a forum moderator before , like > Jonnathan :) ,But i can assure i can perform the task very well.So rest > is upto you..Also i would like to know when is the whole process goin to > start :) > You're welcome! Having no experiences so far isn't bad - the whole life is a learning process. I proposed you, Remy and Jon now at forums.o.o - still awaiting feedback. From my very personal point of view, you all three should get the "job" (the more Mods the better). The whole process is going to start once we have managed the transition into the new instance and have the new QA implemented. I have, in the meantime, the definite approval from the Forums Team for the creation of the Wiki Forum. They're just waiting for green lights from our team to press the "Go Live Button" actually. I'll discuss the Moderator appointment with them (last step) and we're done with that particular task. Thanks, R > I didnt sent this message to the list . As this one is not much > important to be there > > -- > Reagards, > Shayon Mukherjee > http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock > Email: hkwarlock(a)gmail.com > Twitter: ShayonM > > -- Rupert Horstkötter openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Re: Opensuse 11.2 Translate About
by Rajko M. 21 Nov '09

21 Nov '09

On Tuesday 17 November 2009 05:08:46 Tora Toraman wrote: > Dear Rajko, > > Translations done opensuse 11.2? How can we do to Turkish translation. In > this regard I very glad you could send me the emergency response. > > Best Regards. > Tora Toraman > > www.suse-tr.com > I missed you email, sorry. I'm right now on http://tr.opensuse.org/ and I can see few errors: ---- Ticari Sürümü: openSUSE 11.1 ---- Projenin Dönüm Noktaları talks about 10.3 Please see http://en.opensuse.org/Mediawiki:Mainpagerightcolumn and update the http://tr.opensuse.org/MedyaViki:Mainpagerightcolumn . Word Mediawiki is not necessary to translate. It is the name of software that runs wiki, and the namespace Mediawiki: is the system area of that software. I don't know rules in Turkish considering translations, but when it is about software, I'm sure that one has to be very careful when translating. ---- Featured Article Please comment it out with  after text. I'm not sure how to help you with those edits as you have sysop/bureaucrat rights on tr wiki, so you can edit those areas. BTW, I added the wiki mail list in CC as your question can be better answered there. -- Regards, Rajko openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] uggestion about opensuse. org forums
by Tora Toraman 21 Nov '09

21 Nov '09

dear authorities and developers want to establish a Turkish forum on tr.opensuse .org. but i don't know whom i should contact with for that. if everyone can establish forums in their own languages and make use of it, opensuse users will be gatherin in opensuse.org, not in alternative websites. whatever the language they have, people will visit opensuse. org if there is a forum in their own language. if opensuse. org can also be active as a forum and gather the users in its own organization, it will be very profitable and useful for opensuse.orgproject. Or it could be one individual forum that includes multilingual forums. i would like to know what your opinions are about this suggestion. the main purpose here should not only be to gather people who only translate or develop on opensuse. org. however, latest users should be involved on here to share information so that opensuse.org can turn out to be a more vivid and active website. tora toraman www.suse-tr . com http://tr.opensuse. org/Kullan%C4%B1c%C4%B1:Toratoraman E-Mail : toratoraman(a)gmail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki Forum
by Rupert Horstkötter 20 Nov '09

20 Nov '09

Team, JFYI, I'll get started with a discussion about the creation of a Wiki Forum as part of our QA process (proof-reading) with the Forums Team over at forums.o.o (I have access to the private team area). Besides the proof-reading aspect I feel this appropriate as a discussion platform for the Wiki Team with the openSUSE Community (getting feedback, providing guidance, ..., collaboration from a long term perspective, i.e. transforming valuable Forums content into tutorial-style articles for the Wiki and so on and so forth). As we move forward with the implementation of our Usability Concept, I feel this as the right time to kick this off - that way we'll have the Wiki Forum available as soon as we need it. Any complaints? Please provide input you may have. Thanks, R -- Rupert Horstkötter openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Something wrong with login page ??
by Rajko M. 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

I attached small image that is large enough to explain the problem. Is that my Konqueror, or it is the page? Reloading the page doesn't help. Firefox is OK. -- Regards, Rajko openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About

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[opensuse-wiki] ATTENTION: please keep organization in mind
by Rupert Horstkötter 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

Team, I'm pretty much satisfied with the progress we make with the Usability Concept, no question, but there's one thing we constantly need to take care of - not losing organization and having the big picture in mind. That said, I'd like provide an attempt to structure the tasks we need to achieve at first glance and especially order them appropriately: We need to... 1. agree on the QA process - Rajko is currently reviewing FlaggedRevs and approx. ETA is end of this week (this is important for the creation of the new instance) 1a. not urgent (during transition) but related to 1: creation of the Wiki Forum at forums.o.o as part of QA - my task 2. come up with article-templates (to ensure consistent design) and sort wiki-templates (like: tested with openSUSE 11.2) - Shayon? John? 3. create the Guidelines (at least that part we need for our Transition Guidelines - that is 1 and 2) - cannot be done prior completion of 1 and 2 - my task (helping hands appreciated) 4. agree on a transition plan and come up with those Transition Guidelines (almost done, I like Petr's approach and afaik we're all in sync to prefer henne's 3rd option) 5. Go through http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team/Checked_Pages and begin to migrate in conformity with 2 and 4 I write this email to raise the attention on the following (while I hope this is anyway obvious): We cannot get started with tasks 4 and 5 before we completed tasks 1, 2, 3. Other things like the establishment of the front portal (Federico, Petr, Rajko and Shayon), the project-portals and wiki-projects (Federico and Petr) and so on are not mission-critical for the success of the actual transition though. Best, R -- Rupert Horstkötter openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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