Re: Fwd: [opensuse-wiki] Moving forward towards a better wiki

Rupert Horstkötter wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jon Rocker Date: 2009/11/13 Subject: Re: [opensuse-wiki] Moving forward towards a better wiki To: Rupert Horstkötter

Is there a way to have pages flagged when they haven't been updated for X amount of time? To see if they need updating, or they are no longer relevant. This would help is keeping the wiki up to date.

Just my 2 cents

Jon-- Hi. What do you mean by this? Flagged how? Some sort of a "this page may be out of date" banner at the top or ????

2009/11/13 Rupert Horstkötter :

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Petr,

2009/11/12 Petr Uzel :

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Hi,

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 04:11:18PM +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote:

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Hey,

how about we move forward now? I'm seeing 3 options we have:

1. Create the new layout/structure and move (nearly) all current pages in the wiki around. 2. Copy all current pages into a the new-wiki namespace, work on the new layout/structure in the namespace and move pages back. 3. Start the layout/strucute from scratch on a new wiki instance and copy only the content we want.

Each of the methods has its pros and cons. I am very much in favor of 3. I think we would end up with a pretty mean 'n' clean setup which we can drive forward from then on. Your opinion? Rajko? Rupert? Federico? Petr? Lubos? Shayon? Everyone else? I'm also for the third option as it forces us to consider what to do with every page of the current wiki.

Before moving any stuff from old wiki to new wiki, we should have a very precise plan what should be moved where, what should be discarded, merged, whatever. This requires existence of some 'transition' guidelines with which we all agree and which will be strictly followed while moving stuff from old to new wiki.

I'm completely on the same page here. If we do this without following "Transition Guidelines", we'll just produce a new mess out of an old one and this is not desirable. Talking about "Transition Guidelines", we should also consider our to be created "Wiki Guidelines" - unfortunately it's rather difficult to come up with these until other construction yards are still un-finished (especially the QA - Rajko is working on this and the sorting/creation of templates). I myself would very much appreciate if we could agree on a consistent design of Wiki articles - who's in charge of this? Shayon and John? All Petr mentioned is perfectly appropriate but in addition to that (while checking http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team/Checked_Pages or something similar), shouldn't we also take care to get rid of the in-consistent design? I'm sorry to mention again my very personal favourite wiki ubuntuusers.de but from my perspective they just do it right and therefore I took the time to collect some article examples (translated to english) to show what I mean with a consistent look&feel: http://tinyurl.com/yjz8fql http://tinyurl.com/yk2lugz http://tinyurl.com/yz7suh7 http://tinyurl.com/yjw7sba

From my perspective, a consistent design of content is an important aspect to provide usability to the reader. What do you think to take of this within the Transtition Guidelines (within the Wiki Guidelines anyway)?

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Perhaps this could be achieved by organizing something similar (or just finishing) to http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team/Checked_Pages. This way we could - minimize time for which main opensuse wiki is r/o - check every page whether it complies with the wiki standards See above: Design and general Wiki Guidelines.

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- properly categorize each page

Generally, this way we could check the wiki from perspective of individual pages and later, by moving, reorganize it as a whole.

I'm completely on the same page here Petr.

Thanks, R

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-- Best regards / s pozdravem

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