Hello, Rupert, thanks for your comments! On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 02:05:09PM +0100, Rupert Horstkötter wrote:
What did I miss?
Not that you missed something but I'd like to raise the attention on this one: Initially my very own Usability concept-proposal included a "Main Portal" as a replacement of the current en.opensuse.org - the idea to come up with several "sub"Portals (awesome idea) has been introduced later on by yourself and Federico Mena. That said, the "Main Portal" needs to be consistent with the Portal approach you work on for "deeper" hierarchies of openSUSE documentation, like e.g. KDE, GNOME, Education, Medical, YaST, OBS, Packaging, etc. etc. We urgently need to sync the efforts Shayon is currently working on (http://en.opensuse.org/Portal_New) for the "Main Portal" with the progress you make - from my perspective these are heavily related - I mean, the "Main Portal" is so to speak the parent of all the others, isn't it?
I don't think it necessarily has to be this way. If you look at en.wikipedia.org (which corresponds to Portal_New in our wiki), there are no links to sub portals except the horizontal bar at the top of the page. I think the openSUSE wiki entry page (I will call it Portal_New for short) could look similar - at the top, there could be a bar with links to existing portals, and below, it could look like now, which is links to individual Categories. The whole portal thing has to parts: 1) Implementing templates/skeletons/... so that portals can be created 2) Actually creating portals Therefore, I don't expect everything will transform into portals quickly. E.g. the wiki-team could help the KDE team with creating their portal, but only if KDE team want's to create it. It might later show up that some new portal, which nobody could now think of, should be created. What I want to say (I know, in a complicated way - sorry), is that IMHO we can't/shouldn't make an exact plan about which portals will be in the wiki, so it not possible to design Portal_New accordingly. OTOH, the categories are there for a long time (stable), so why not building the Portal_New around categories instead of portals? Of course, if later someone creates new portal for some category (which is desired), the link on Portal_New will be changed from (Category:KDE to Portal:KDE).
What about "just" listing the "sub"Portals there, while providing information about the Wiki-Team, our new mentoring Program, our new Guidelines and contact/support information there.
As I wrote, this way we would need a lot of Portals to be ready beforehand, which is IMHO not feasible.
Then replacing en.opensuse.org with the "Main Portal" as an entry page to the (then) Portal-structured wiki below (from a hierarchy perspective). May you sync with Shayon here and join forces please? - imho we urgently need to make this one single AI to ensure consistency and openSUSE world domination ;-)
Thanks, Rupert
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