Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-wiki (137 mails)

["Rajko M." <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Saturday 17 October 2009 01:10:24 m.shulhan wrote:
> Rajko M. wrote:
> > We are just starting discussion how to make wiki more appealing and
> > useful place, so comments and questions from your prospective are
> > valuable feedback for everybody involved.
>
> Some issue and suggestion that i had with current wiki,
>
> - Writing Numbered/Ordered List is not easy.
>
> Most of the wiki page contains step by step instruction. Using numbered
> list will make wiki reader know which step is (s)he will doing first and
> what will do next. Writing instruction in numbered list in wiki is hard,
> especially numbered list with template in it.
> Another alternative is using unordered (bullet) list. But sometime when
> one step required another sub-step and since sub-step is using bullet
> too it's become messy, all bullets looks same.

The text flow is information on steps and their order. 

The numbering is needed only if you create instructions that contain something 
like "if condition A then skip to point D", or backwards "if condition C then 
go back to point A". It is also needed if you want to list some items that are 
needed for procedure and later in article refer to them as item No. 1 and 2. 
instead of their longer names. 

In general instructions that look like computer program should be used as 
little as possible. They save place on a disk, but, in the same time, they 
make instructions readable only for small number of people that are used to 
read computer code, and that is the kind of users that, more often then not,  
don't need hand holding. 

> - It's just me or default wiki font is too large ?
>
> To be honest, i, personally, does not like the default font either. Font
> is the first thing come up in a page and primary interface in wiki and
> any other web pages. A Good font will make a reader enjoy the reading.

The default font (size, font face, color) could depend on web page, but I 
guess that are your browser settings that you can tune to get font size that 
you like. This is valid for any web page, not only our wiki. 

Some web pages require certain font with all details, but if there is none of 
required available, browser will use defaults anyway. 

> - Automatic logout.
>
> When i am editing some page, i need to double check several page/link
> for clarification, and sometime i got distracted by others things. When
> i am finished and click the preview button and directed to page that
> says "You need login" i will answer "Forget it". 

Better just log in and then go back to the edit page using browser back 
button, not a link on a login page. Then use preview and it will work. 

Besides automatic logout should be set to 8 hours, so any problem with shorter 
time should be reported as a bug. Although, I'm not sure about proper place 
where to report it. 

> What is a harm to disable automatic logout ? because every one can
> create opensuse account and do any damage to any page without need to
> steal other account, right ?

No, but to damage your reputation, using your account to do silly edits, one 
has to take over your account, so it is nothing worry about spam, it is about 
yourself.  

> - Send me an email on page changes.

This doesn't work currently. It was disabled for some reason long ago. 
We will see how that works after wiki software update, and then it could be 
enabled again. 

> shuLhan

I'll use this opportunity to say thank you for your contributions to the wiki.  

-- 
Regards, Rajko

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