Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-wiki (29 mails)

["Rajko M." <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Friday 27 June 2008 07:15:49 am Rajko M. wrote:
> We should decide how to handle subpages ie. those like:
> HowTos/GNOME/ExtendingNautilus
>
> For little benefit of automatic back links (sometimes called bread crumbs)
> page title look like URL path which is not good layout. When someone moves
> page those back links mix with redirect back links making line that should
> help browsing, actually confusing. To see what I mean try this link:
>
> http://en.opensuse.org/HowTos/GNOME/ExtendingNautilus
>
> Page was moved to make HOWTO naming consistent, and now user has 2 links to
> follow.
>
> I propose to use subpages to one level depth as additional explanation to
> the main article, that user has to read and then go back to the main topic,
> and only in such cases where additional explanation is specific to main
> article. If it is about how to switch to root, that is used all over the
> wiki, so very much not specific it has to go to separate page.


Today I was looking at http://en.opensuse.org/Category:GNOME and discovered 
one more case where using subpages makes more trouble than benefit.

All GNOME related pages are listed under letter G .
I took that as an example. All efforts of GNOME team to make pages easy 
accessible led to result that is not better than already present in All 
Pages:
http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=GNOME&namespace=0

The same is valid for any other example of subpages overuse. 

The problem is that there is more groups of articles that made internal wiki 
categories pointless to use: YaST, Build Service, KDE etc. The KDE is special 
case, as Las2kn0 tried to clean that up and assign more helpful categories. 
We don't have many tools to index and present for browsing openSUSE wiki 
content. Disabling them for large groups of articles is probably not the way 
we want to go.    

Compare that with http://en.opensuse.org/Category:HOWTOs
When creating HOWTOs index, pflodo asked to put word HOWTO at the end of the 
article title. Now articles are listed by letter, not all under H. 

I would like to hear proposals how to solve this, for both present problems 
and future. 

-- 
Regards, Rajko
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands.
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