Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-wiki (70 mails)

[Munkii <munkiimailinglists@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 08:23 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
> This is the answer in discussion on http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:Wishlist_Gnome ;
> Here is transcript:
> 
> >> more categories is good idea, but desktop list will bring more 
> >> problems than it will solve 
> >> 1) lists by desktops will be huge and that is directly against your goal,
> >> to clean them up. 
> >
> > 1) the size doesn't matter as long as it's readable, the old wishlists 
> > were such a mess, devs and repo maintainers were more likely discouraged
> > from reading it than being overwhelmed 
> 
> They did look at, for sure. The FATE, feature tracking system, is closed for 
> non employees, so the only way to propose new features, which includes new 
> softare are various wish lists on the wiki. 
> 
> >> 2) it is irrelevant division, application will run, if it has all
> >> libraries, on any desktop. Have you ever run KDE or GNOME applications 
> >> in fvwm, xfce, window manager, twm etc, they work just as fine as in native
> >> desktop environment.   
> > 
> >  2) while that's true, the new separation of the gnome and kde installation
> > CD's in 10.3 acquires us to start considering more desktop dependent apps, 
> > users who'd rather not install extra libs for programs that are meant to
> > work on other desktop environments should get what they want, because 
> > it's more efficient, this is how it works in most distro's. that and 
> > the fact that some applications are absolutely desktop dependent 
> > (i.e, mail notification, gimmie panel, tomboy reminder, KDE startup manager,
> > etc..) 
> 
> That is OK. The problem is that application should be listed in all relevant 
> lists. That is asking for maintainer to keep all in sync. For developer was 
> easier to have one page, even in a mess and look diff to find what new was 
> added, than to check 2 or 3 items that are the same. 
> 
> The same is valid for users. If they select right category, though :-(
> 
> IMHO, wiki is not good medium for feature/software requests, but for now we 
> have to live with it. 
> 
> >> 3) where to put applications that will run on any desktop, as long as X 
> >> server is running 
> > 
> >  3) any other wishlist should do just fine for non-desktop specific apps, 
> > the Gnome/KDE wishlist is only meant to serve a certain type of package 
> > requests, you can already see some examples on both lists. 
> 
> OK. 
> 
> >> 4) where to put applications that need no desktop.
> >  4) --> 3)

great! since we initially agree on the principle, i've added Gnome and
KDE to the [PackageWishlist] template here:
http://en.opensuse.org/Template:PackageWishlist ;

..and here are the Gnome and KDE wishlists for those who want to review
them:

http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist_Gnome

http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist_KDE


Regards, Munkii


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