October 2013 - openSUSE Web - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-web] bugmail constipation
by Felix Miata 04 Nov '13

04 Nov '13

Last bugmail I received was sent more than 72 hours ago, arrived more than 48 hours later. I commented in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847479 (same bug) a half hour ago,but still no sign of bugmail. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] SideBar
by Jan Papež (honyczek) 31 Oct '13

31 Oct '13

Hi, probably after MediaWiki update there are redundant boxes (Search, Toolbox, Languages) in Wiki sidebar. Try to save http://en.opensuse.org/MediaWiki:Sidebar again to restore openSUSE SideBar. -- Jan Papež (honyczek) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] Help:Category review
by Jan Papež (honyczek) 24 Oct '13

24 Oct '13

Hi, I would like to ask English user, who can make review of Help:Category article, to review it. I've just changed link to right article about making Article titles (old Help:Article title, new Help:Style#Title). Could you do it, please? -- Jan Papež (honyczek) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] [13.1 RC1] dd problem
by Carlos E. R. 20 Oct '13

20 Oct '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Look: cer@Eleanor4:~/bin> dd if=/dev/zero of=sample bs=100 count=1 ; l sample 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 100 bytes (100 B) copied, 0.000910599 s, 110 kB/s - -rw-r--r-- 1 cer users 100 Oct 20 16:08 sample cer@Eleanor4:~/bin> dd if=/dev/random of=sample bs=100 count=1 ; l sample 0+1 records in 0+1 records out 22 bytes (22 B) copied, 0.00131574 s, 16.7 kB/s - -rw-r--r-- 1 cer users 22 Oct 20 16:08 sample cer@Eleanor4:~/bin> dd if=/dev/random of=sample bs=100 count=1 ; l sample 0+1 records in 0+1 records out 9 bytes (9 B) copied, 17.0424 s, 0.0 kB/s - -rw-r--r-- 1 cer users 9 Oct 20 16:08 sample cer@Eleanor4:~/bin> Why if the input is /dev/random, the size of the output file is not 100 bytes? Some times 16 bytes, some 20, some 9... However, if I run that in 12.3, I get the expected result, consistently: Telcontar:~ # dd if=/dev/random of=sample bs=100 count=1 ; l sample 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 100 bytes (100 B) copied, 0.00013542 s, 738 kB/s - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 100 Oct 20 16:13 sample Telcontar:~ # Two tested machines running 13.1 fail. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlJj53UACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VeIwCdE/m6PgcspCtYGCL+IXNbKI63 Yh8An3ZbgOte0KWLQQLa78zbIM9bFlpk =tJom -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] Re: [opensuse-factory] openQA
by agustin benito bethencourt 14 Oct '13

14 Oct '13

Hi Guido, > > > > Priviledge? > > > > Anybody can install an openQA V2 instance. We will provide help to those > > interested in doing so. Another option is to wait until upstream include > > some/all of the changes we made. You can also work on V2.1 > > No, as I wrote below I don't have the resources to run my own > instance and relied on openqa.opensuse.org. As pointed, then you will have to wait until the coordinators of the service provide a solution, which I think they already did[1]. We cannot provide any other solution for this Release. [1] http://openqa.opensuse.org/results/ Saludos -- Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe(a)suse.com

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[opensuse-web] Re: [opensuse-factory] openQA
by agustin benito bethencourt 14 Oct '13

14 Oct '13

Hi Guido, On Monday 14 October 2013 11:10:45 Guido Berhoerster wrote: > * agustin benito bethencourt <abebe(a)suse.com> [2013-10-14 10:46]: > > The openSUSE Team at SUSE do not maintain openqa.opensuse.org. It is run > > under Bernhard's coordination with a remarkable effort, by the way. > > > > We have developed some improvements in openQA in close communication with > > upstream (Bernhard). He is the one that will decides which improvements > > should be implemented and which don't in the openQA service. > > > > We developed the openQA V2 in the open and improved the installation to > > make it easier than it was. There is room for improvements though. > > Meanwhile, the openSUSE Team have a V2 instance internally to test the > > distro and the improvements done. > So what makes SUSE emplyees special to get this privilege? Priviledge? Anybody can install an openQA V2 instance. We will provide help to those interested in doing so. Another option is to wait until upstream include some/all of the changes we made. You can also work on V2.1 > I > maintain a whole desktop in openSUSE and openQA has been an very > important part of my workflow and I have contributed a bunch of > tests suited to my needs. And I simply do not have the resources > (i.e. bandwidth) to run an instance of my own. > Given that, would you please either mirror the results page to a > public server or provide those non-SUSE community members who > have a need for it access to the new instance? We do not touch openqa.opensuse.org so I have no info about why your workflow has changed. Maybe Bernhard is more qualified to provide you with a proper answer about this. Please ping him. Saludos -- Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe(a)suse.com

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[opensuse-web] Re: [opensuse-factory] openQA
by agustin benito bethencourt 14 Oct '13

14 Oct '13

Hi, On Friday 11 October 2013 13:29:52 Richard Brown wrote: > On 11 October 2013 08:33, Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel(a)suse.de> wrote: > > Guido Berhoerster wrote: > >> why haven't there been any openQA runs on Factory and 13.1? At > >> Beta/RC time it is more important than ever and there are e.g. > >> problems net-installing the Xfce desktop post-Beta1 where openQA > >> would really be helpful. > > > > In spring the openSUSE team made a sprint to enhance openQA to make it > > even more useful for release testing. We mostly succeeded¹²³. > > Unfortunately we ran out of time to implement proper user managment. > > Since this new version allows interactive editing and rescheduling of > > tests in the web interface that is pretty much mandatory to run openQA > > in public though. So at the moment we have to run our release tests on a > > private instance unfortunately. That is a pity of course as we could > > really use more hands to evaluate and fix the test results. So we hope > > to be able to address this in the future. > > > > Meanwhile contributions are welcome nevertheless of course. > > Running your own instance should be rather easy if you have a > > sufficiently powerful machine. There's a tutorial in os-autoinst how to > > install openQA from packages[4]. > > > > cu > > Ludwig > > > > [1] https://github.com/openSUSE-Team/openQA, > > [2] https://github.com/openSUSE-Team/os-autoinst > > [3] https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/devel%3AopenQA > > [4] > > https://github.com/openSUSE-Team/os-autoinst/blob/master/doc/tutorial.pdf > > hmm, that is dreadfully disappointing > > I consider openQA an important community service, and it's sad to > think that it's no longer available to the community. As a regular > tester of openSUSE, I find it invaluable to have a reference to > compare a lot of my own tests against. If I no longer have that, my > ability to test openSUSE is going to be hindered. > > I appreciate the effort the openSUSE Team made to improve openQA, but > if the situation really is that the community cant use openQA at all > now unless they install it themselves, then I'm really not sure we can > call the current situation an 'improvement' The openSUSE Team at SUSE do not maintain openqa.opensuse.org. It is run under Bernhard's coordination with a remarkable effort, by the way. We have developed some improvements in openQA in close communication with upstream (Bernhard). He is the one that will decides which improvements should be implemented and which don't in the openQA service. We developed the openQA V2 in the open and improved the installation to make it easier than it was. There is room for improvements though. Meanwhile, the openSUSE Team have a V2 instance internally to test the distro and the improvements done. > > Given I cant see how the new openQA works, forgive me if this is a > stupid suggestion, but surely a public view of the results from openQA > wouldn't need any editing, rescheduling or user management.. can we > have that added/restored to openQA and have the openSUSE openQA > instance restored as a community service as soon as possible? If we talk about the development, we have worked in the open, as expected. If you talk about the service, we do not intend to provide an alternative service of openQA for openSUSE. That makes no sense from our point of view and it would be unfair with upstream. So answering your request, we have nothing to restore. We are waiting for upstream to migrate the open service to the following version so we all can use it in the open. Obviously we will help in this task when required. openqa.opensuse.org is a great service and, as some of you mentioned, has an increasing impact in our development process. I invite you to collaborate with Bernhard on it. We will also help when we can. These days we are focused in other tasks and we cannot, but we expect to have a time window to put effort on it during the first half of next year. Saludos -- Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe(a)suse.com

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