i'll be the 1st to admit I don't always see eye-to-eye with the Suse, Opensuse & Virtualization efforts' actions, directions, etc. but in the end, it's, imo, the only solid distro-supported Xen/Virtualization solution out there. modern kernel, Xen4, PCI/USB/etc-Passthrough, etc are all there (I won't start re: PV_Grub), and, although docs can be at times ... challenging ... it works. In production. Under heavy load. As do others, I follow progress in Xen channels/mailing lists/etc. I find *many* HowTo questions that arise there would be readily handled by simply using current (or OBS repos') *Suse/Xen. That said, there seems to be a tangible ... lack of interest in, if not disdain for ... Suse+Xen. Yet the flailings about of how to get things done in Centos, Debian, etc ... continue. That's certainly fine. I'm curious: (1) Why does this tension exist? Or, in your opinion(s), does it? (2) What can be done differently in *Suse to further adoption for Virtualization? The latter question, in particular, is a purely mercenary concern for me -- the bigger/stronger the community of users, the better off my deployments are/will be. Not trolling, just interested. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-virtual+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-virtual+help@opensuse.org