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El 14/04/08, Carlos E. R. escribió:
No, tiene que ver con lo que hicieron los ultimos de Filipinas, o los de Numancia.
No si... ya la hemos "liao". De los "patrones singulares" a la "guerra de Filipinas" O:-)
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¡Ah! Tendré que mirarlo. Mmmm. Es de la peli del año 45. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_%C3%BAltimos_de_Filipinas ah, es que son dos paginas. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_%C3%9Altimos_de_Filipinas Esa si es, y la están escribiendo ahora.
Esas cosas que hacemos los españoles cuando se ven con el agua al cuello rodeados de enemigos y resisten por co... la ultima resistencia, digamos, antes de que nos venzan.
Bueno, en el contexto de la frase, podría traducirse como "llegar hasta las últimas consecuencias" o "aguantar hasta el final" :-?
Es decir que hasta aquí hemos llegado y aquí nos aguantamos hasta que nos echen, o no puedan echarnos. Sí, lo de la raya, pero en un contesto de lucha o resistencia. No necesariamente lucha belica, pero sí tiene un contexo de lucha. A ver si después lo miro en el webster. Claro, la wikipedia... como no. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_stand Last stand is a loose military term used to describe a body of troops holding a defensive position in the face of overwhelming odds. The defensive force usually takes very heavy casualties or is completely destroyed, while also inflicting high casualties on the opponent. In rare exceptions, such as Rorke's Drift and Battle of Longewala, the defending force is ultimately victorious. Dicen que es un término militar. Un caso que citan ellos es el del general Custer frente a los indios (Battle of the Little Bighorn): Custer's famous "Last stand". The Federal cavalry officer and hero of Gettysburg refused an extra battalion of men from General Terry and left a battery of Gatling guns at the Steamboat Far West on the Yellowstone River, knowing he was facing superior odds. Four days later he stumbled upon a very large encampment, 3.5-5 miles long on the west side of the Little Bighorn. His Crow scouts rode off at that point. Custer then divided his forces in a three-way pincers move. The defenders beat back the initial attacks, forced Custer's supporting columns under Reno and Benteen into a defensive position, and pursued Custer and his men up onto a long, open ridge. The entire force with Custer died. Reno and Benteen's men, dug in over three miles (5 km) away, survived a three-day siege until relieved by General Terry. ¡Hombre! Nos citan: "Siege of Baler" Fifty Spanish soldiers and four officers defended this site, surrounded for a whole year, not knowing that the Filipino-Spanish war was over. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Baler - -- Saludos Carlos E.R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIA+E5tTMYHG2NR9URAisPAJ931VKoD3Ux3QYiX2Ce+EJUoI8CfQCfXIIB 7pcxrzPZ9ZD80uw06EULhYs= =iCUS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----