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Re: [opensuse-testing] Re: [opensuse-factory] Request to change MS6 to Beta
On 9 July 2011 17:40, Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Rob OpenSuSE wrote:

So rather than shipping the latest automatically, have some quality
control!

I got a little behind in this thread, and will try to catch up now.

There is no intent to "fool" the users. If I did not think that MS6 were
fully qualified to be called a "beta", then I would not have proposed this.
In fact, if it is not, then openSUSE is doomed. A reputation for releasing
buggy code is impossible to shake.

The scheme proposed by M. Raiko is not that different from what happens in
the kernel. Anything not available by the end of the merge period has to
wait for the next cycle. If openSUSE used that scheme and froze
features/versions after MS2, a lot fewer bugs would make it to GM. I'm not
sure that I want to go that far as we would be shipping some really old
stuff. Perhaps the rolling releases of Tumbleweed will help debug many of
the updates that will be in our next release.

A distro is different, because it compiles and serves in conveient
form for most part the output of upstream.
Rules about freezing features & versions, are inherently broken. It's
intelligent pragmatic decisions that are needed not rules that appeal
to bureaucrats.

For instance are upstream fixing bugs and adding small features or
redeveloping the whole project etc etc. Is the project directions
suitable?

Project should ship the best software it can, and think ahead a few
months beyond release day to.

Rob
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