Hello :-) This list don't seems very active :-) the way I work makes it difficult for me to attend IRC, I will try to summarize my recent experience here. I could have factory running on two (very different) computers. The first, an old HP desktop, was empty. I couldn't find a booting media so I installed 11.4 basic and them changed repos ("distribution/11.4" to "factory"). After this the computer boots - I use kde. nearly no problem. the other, I installed yesterday, was an acer one (netbook) A0751H. The experience was quite exasperating, but probably mostly because some buggy hardware/bios. Must say, to be able to have several parallel installs I also installed on it a new 500Gb hard drive. This drive was new for the computer, but come from a dead laptop with Vista (no more working, tied to the original hardware) and at least two 11.3 openSUSE. At first time one of the openSUSE booted right away. The other failed (and kept failing all along) because the disk was for some time included in a big desktop with several disks and the fstab of this 11.3 version held some other disks, and also menu.lst and this 11.3 version always started in recovery degraded mode and was unable to find it's own root (don't know why and wont ever know, this system being now overwritten - it could be started with the manual grub command line but not by the original menu.lst). To make a long story short, I had to reinstall windows, choosed to use windows 7 and from there on the computer always said "no operating system" when trying to boot. I could boot with the supergrub cd, but no grub install could boot (nor the openSUSE extended partition one, nor a MBR one. I even used updategrub (the wonderfull programm from please-try-again) with no avail... At the end of this day, far in the night, I could not even boot from the USB dvd reader I used all the day. went to bed. yesterday morning, no boot neither. Then I did two things, one of them making all work: * changed the usb connector for the dvd from left side to right side * for this removing the usb mouse (there is only one usb connector on the righs side) after that the Hard drive booted normally and still find his grub menu. Looks like if the bios tried to boot the mouse... stupid cat :-)) switching from 11.3 to factory. Changing the repos to factory and running zypper dup issued so many dependecy problems ("keep old library or uninstall yast", for question example), I didn't accept that. but installing 11.4 repos and making zypper up went well (after 3 or 4 hours download). With this 11.4 running, I could fix the second 11.3 install to boot, install 11.4 on the same way, then change repos to factory and install factory. My problems are probably related to the fact the 11.3 install where very application loaded. kde *and* gnome, specially, as there is some know incompatibility right now on factory. Finally I have running kdm (kde do not connect, fall back to kdm), gnome is running complaining it don't find gnome 3, xfce and lxde runs. If you have any idea what I could test specially to be usefull? I usually work on multimedia, but right now I don't have a packman repo, so multimedia is limited! jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg http://jdd.blip.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org