On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 10:02:54AM +0100, jdd wrote:
Rasmus Plewe a écrit :
Of course they do. But users normally[0] don't want to run openSUSE or KDE. They want to run firefox, kmail, acrobat reader and openOffice. Did you try to start OOo on a machine with 256MB? And then work with it?
of course it works
Then I stand corrected. Last thing I can safely remember is upgrading my 256MB on 10.1 to 1250MB because it was almost constantly swapping (and starting OOo was something I tried only once). And even then I was able to press its limits. Might be my unusual use pattern.
But "minimum hardware requirements" imply to me that there is no limit for normal use.
if so we should be more precise.
That would be my vote, yes.
For internet use, mail, most office work, these machines are plain good (and I did these works few time ago with much less powerfull computers)
but, of course if you want to compile Hight Definition video or 15Mpix images this can be short. I already have 160Go photo repository (but on USB drive)
Hmm. I have a memory consumption of 700MB, after 12hrs uptime and having logged in as user with some kontact, konqueror and xterms but without interactive work. 11.1, more or less standard configuration. Given some non-standard stuff, and careless memory claiming because there is still plenty (2GB total), I could agree on 512MB as beginning to be usable. 256MB I still find hard to believe for a desktop system. The 4GB system I'm sitting in front of has almost exactly half its memory in use. No, not in cache. Anyway, that's only anecdotal evidence from my side.
but the question is: why should we ask for more than what is really necessary? these are not maximum requirements, but minimum ones!
It's the definition of "minimum". Perhaps we could define minimum, perhaps even on more than one level, along with the corresponding requirements? Something like [reduced to available RAM]: - absolute minimum: no GUI, small server services [256MB] - minimum GUI experience: no KDE/gnome, basically having one program open at the same time [256MB?] - minimum Desktop experience: KDE/gnome, opening either several programs at the same time or open OOo ;-) [512MB] - minimum configuration for extensive desktop work: KDE/gnome with whistles and bells, hardly limited for non-multimedia work [that would be my 1GB limit - I would refuse as much as possible to work on less memory when talking about desktop computers] - minimum configuration for multimedia work: [no experience] - maximum configuration: [I forgot, how much memory was supported by a 64 bit kernel...?] Do you feel that this would be too detailed? Where would you set the minimum requirements for different use cases? Rasmus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org