Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-testing (24 mails)

[Satoru Matsumoto <helios_reds@xxxxxxx>]

Martin Schlander wrote:

> One big problem with the current situation is that noone knows what to test 
> and when. One of the main reasons I usually don't test early alphas is that I 
> expect everything to change dramatically later on anyway, hence thinking 
> testing is probably pointless at that point anyway - but I guess some 
> components _are_ ready for widespread testing and that point, we just need to 
> know which.

I partially agree with this.

When 11.0 GM was released, there was a critical bug in the installation
process which affected only Japanese users.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=385172#c34
The most annoying was, that the bug seemed to be fixed in RC1, which we
non-Novell persons can test, but reproduced in RC4, which only Novell
persons can test, and the bug was not fixed in GM.

However, during the 11.1 release process, there was a call for feature
testing.
http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-testing/2008-11/msg00005.html
But you can see most of the Test Results for listed features remain "Idle".
http://en.opensuse.org/Testing:Features_11.1
We could know *what to test and when* in this case, but as far as I can
see, not so many people participated the testing.

I think we have to analyze why many people don't have keen interest to
testing. Do we need to spread the word much more ?  Do we need to
clarify what and how things to be tested and where the result should be
reported ?  Or, do we need to prepare benefits for dedicated testers ?

IMHO, although testing itself is very important, it would be more
important to figure out a way to participate testing easily, so that as
many people as possible can feel "openSUSE is *our* distribution".

> Additionally maybe some automation could be set up where openfate would spam 
> this list when a new feature reaches a certain status, so as to let us know 
> it 
> might be something that needed testing.

openFATE screening team has just begun its activities and we are now
brainstorming what can and should we do.  So your opinion will be
inputted. ;-)

Best,

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