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Re: [opensuse-summit] Es and En flags for the website
  • From: Bryen M Yunashko <suserocks@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:45:28 -0500
  • Message-id: <1333568728.4046.57.camel@linux-sl6g>
For English, I request we use US flag. We feel weird when we have to
click on a British flag. :-)

Bryen


On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 14:42 -0500, Ricardo Chung wrote:
El mié, 04-04-2012 a las 21:26 +0300, Athanasios-Ilias Rousinopoulos
escribió:
Hello Summit-Geekos!

Well it's too dificult to find the appropiate flag but instead of this
i suggest using this term

" Espanol (Castellano/Latino) "

In order to "cover" all the spanish-spoken countries.

I would not worry to much about using Spain flag icon because it is used
in many websites meaning spanish-castillian language instead country. In
some websites use the "ES" word to mean Español (Spanish). Strictly
speaking Español is not a language but a people native from Spain. It is
used currently to mean a spanish-castillian speaker. So don't worry
about these details. Go for "ES" or Spain flag because it is wider
accepted.

In any case Castillan=Castellano would be the right language and more
extended worldwide and in Latinamerica.

As for Catalan , Euskadi and Gallego these are not a language but a
dialect which are spoken only in some "states" of Spain.

Catalan is considered a language despite word similarities with Castillan,
French and Latin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_language

Euskera or Basque is from another world language because Its uniqueness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_language

Galician or Gallego is debating to be recognized as language not dialect
because some idiosincratic stuffs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galician_language


2012/4/4 Shayon Mukherjee <opensuse@xxxxxxxxx>:


On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wednesday 04 April 2012 12:08:04 Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Bryen M Yunashko <suserocks@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 12:23 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:52:54 Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
Hello Ppl,

I am wondering what flags should we be using for Es and En on the
website? Its for the links to the respective language / site
content.

Just pick what's included in the distro - there are flags in
/usr/share/locale/l10n/

:D
:
Thanks

I think Shayon is trying to come up with a "politically-correct"
solution. In general, the obvious flag to use for "Spanish" is Spain.
But our particular target here is Latin America, or more specifically,
Central America. So, Spain would not be a good flag in this case, yet
there's several countries, so picking one might offend another. :-)

So, Shayon's aim is to pick a flag (or some other icon) that is not
country-specific or potentially offensive.

Yep exactly :) . Thanks Bryen !

I actually got that and would suggest to go with the flag we've picked
for
the spanish language... 'cuz that's been thought of already. We call the
language 'spanish' too, right, despite the equally politically-incorrect
'spain' in there :D

Go to YaST's language settings. There's no 'Mexican' language. There's
Catalan and that other language in Spain but they gave those Spanish
flags
too... So I think we should go for the Spanish flag, or if you really
think
ppl won't like it, go for the letters ES. Doesn't make much difference
(stands for 'espana', right?) but might make some feel better :S

It's indeed not correct - the majority of spanish is spoken outside of
Spain. But it's reality that we call the language 'spanish', shorten it
with
"es" and use a Spanish flag as easiest way of showing what language we're
talkin' about.

I hope ppl will care about the event, not politics.

And we should take a clue from KDE, something I was recently reminded
off:
"Always assume people mean well". Should be our philosophy, too - perfect
when dealing with different cultures etc :D

Okay. Well in that case, i will go with the Spanish flag as you mentioned
above.
Thanks jos :).

Btw a quick update, I have asked to submit the summit site to the piwik
instance and all the caching has been taken care off as well.


/S

Bryen

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