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Re: [softwaremgmt] when to refresh?
- From: Klaus Kaempf <kkaempf@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:01:39 +0200
- Message-id: <20070720120139.GF20929@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
* Martin Schlander <suse@xxxxxxxxxx> [Jul 19. 2007 18:58]:
> Den Thursday 19 July 2007 17:51:39 skrev Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett:
> > zypper sa http://foo bar
>
> Maybe zypper should ask already at this point: "Repository added succesfully.
> Do you wish to download metadata (xx MB) now ? y/n?"
Being asked every time might annoy people. I'd like to see this configurable.
>
> > zypper search moo
> > zypper install cuack
>
> > for the search, you need cache, for the cache you need metadata. Should
> > ZYpper exit and tell the user to refresh, or should it ask the user whether
> > to refresh without exiting?
>
> Better to ask.
Same as above.
>
> > In the case of YaST, should it download and refresh when adding the repos
> > in inst_source, or should it do it during startup of the package selector?
>
> Could we have it ask "Download repository metadata now?" after adding repo in
> yast? Perhaps even with an estimated size of the download.
YaST is different from command line zypper and I agree that asking is
right here.
>
> If people select no, then it must do it on startup later.
The consequences of selecting 'no' should be made clear.
(And maybe a 'Dont ask anymore' checkbox, configurable via menu)
>
> Personally I think it's more "natural" and intuitive that the metadata is
> downloaded when the repo is added. But of course most other package managers
> separate metadata download and repo adding completely.
What concerns me most is error handling. Having mistyped a URL is pretty
annoying when the tools dont report this immediately.
>
> However to me the important thing is not so much when it's done, but mostly
> that the user gets clear information about what's happening when it's done.
Good point !
Klaus
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> Den Thursday 19 July 2007 17:51:39 skrev Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett:
> > zypper sa http://foo bar
>
> Maybe zypper should ask already at this point: "Repository added succesfully.
> Do you wish to download metadata (xx MB) now ? y/n?"
Being asked every time might annoy people. I'd like to see this configurable.
>
> > zypper search moo
> > zypper install cuack
>
> > for the search, you need cache, for the cache you need metadata. Should
> > ZYpper exit and tell the user to refresh, or should it ask the user whether
> > to refresh without exiting?
>
> Better to ask.
Same as above.
>
> > In the case of YaST, should it download and refresh when adding the repos
> > in inst_source, or should it do it during startup of the package selector?
>
> Could we have it ask "Download repository metadata now?" after adding repo in
> yast? Perhaps even with an estimated size of the download.
YaST is different from command line zypper and I agree that asking is
right here.
>
> If people select no, then it must do it on startup later.
The consequences of selecting 'no' should be made clear.
(And maybe a 'Dont ask anymore' checkbox, configurable via menu)
>
> Personally I think it's more "natural" and intuitive that the metadata is
> downloaded when the repo is added. But of course most other package managers
> separate metadata download and repo adding completely.
What concerns me most is error handling. Having mistyped a URL is pretty
annoying when the tools dont report this immediately.
>
> However to me the important thing is not so much when it's done, but mostly
> that the user gets clear information about what's happening when it's done.
Good point !
Klaus
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