NOW I AM REALLY PISSED OFF! At first I wanted to title this "DOS attack performed by SuSE" or "Sabotage performed by SuSE", but I managed it to cool down a bit, so I hopefully don't hit the wrong guy(s), but someone's got to be blamed and flamed, since this is a neverending story. I don't know if it's the team working on WINE or SuSE team compiling the packages for the distro, I assume it's both of them at the end. What they allow themselves is a pure sabotage and because it repeats in several distributions (I can remember at least the last 4-5) I can't believe that is an act of ignorance or a minor failure: I have never in my life had anything to do with ISDN and I don't have any hardware for this shit and I am even less interested in getting it, but SuSE is FORCING me to install ISDN packages, nevertheless. I ALWAYS deselect this crap and set it to "tabu", but the first time the system s allowed to automatically install a packet I happen to need (e.g. bttv in my case), it IGNORES any settings from installation time and installs all things I do not need: capi4linux, a bunch of isdn packages, formerly even "gnokii". Have you ever noticed that even if you deselect capi4linux, there are still packages required by it? Story background: I use wine sometimes and want it in my computer. Now, some brainless idiot(s) have set the package requirements so that you can't dodge, you'll get shot down anyway. Do they have something against smoothly running systems? Mine was OK, then I let the system automatically install packages needed for my TV card, and what happens? My computer hangs while trying to unload ISDN modules on reboot, and can't reboot any more!!! The only thing that helped was he reset button. After reboot, I saw there was a new entry in runlevel editor - you guess - "ISDN" and it was ON!!! I'm lucky this happened in my test machine and not in one of the servers I have running SuSE, but I am still VERY pissed off. What now? I don't believe that SuSE people are a bunch of idiots, because they have done many good things and hopefully will keep on doing them further. I don't believe it HAS to be this way, because other distributions don't do this to me/us. I don't believe they haven't noticed this, because this repeats for years, so what remains? Nothing I can think of but pure ignorance. This is not the only one thing that made me jump over to gentoo, but this is the only one that made me write this letter already three times ago, but every time till now I cooled down and trashed the mails. Now I won't. I have payed 90 EUR for the shit and I WANT IT WORKING PROPERLY! Don't you, wouldn't you, too? regards Dr. Nihad Mujkanovic Vienna, Austria