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Re: [suse-security] Security and Update
- From: Alex Levit <alex@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:55:42 -0800
- Message-id: <200211270855.42879.alex@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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On the subject of YOU, there are plenty of people using SuSE's YOU on this
list and we don't experience such problems. Look somewhere else for possible
problems.
a. Not enough memory
b. Bad Ram
c. Bad CPU
d. not enough swap space
On Wednesday 27 November 2002 08:09 am, Jim Westbrook wrote:
> On the subject of YOU, I had to reinstall a SuSE 7.3 last week. When I
> attempted to grab the YOU updates, the system crashed (no kybd response,
> etc.) requiring a cold boot recover. Once back to running, I tried YOU
> again, from the cli, and it again performed the package check then crashed
> the system.
>
> I then tried YOU on another SuSE 7.3 box - and after the package check it
> crashed that system as well. I've given up on YOU, but the alternative app
> doesn't work for me either. I'd really like to get all of the security
> updates installed on my boxes, but it looks like I'll have to ditch
> everything and install a different distro instead.
>
> JimW
>
> On 27 Nov 2002, at 2:07, GarUlbricht7@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > DJ: I am aware that your question got answered and this thread may be
> > already "beat to death" but I thought I would add my 2 cents.
> >
> > I agree that the first time I used YOU (Yast Online Update", I didn't
> > know what happened so I tried it again, and again....
> >
> > However,alot of the documentation is right there in the window. I agree
> > it only made sense to me after I had tried YOU several times to see what
> > happened.
> >
> > You may enjoy "fou4s" more, but if you decided to use YOU,
> > I suggest reading:
> > <file:/usr/share/doc/packages/yast2-config-online-update/y2c_online_updat
> >e.html
> >
> > > which should be on your system.
> >
> > In addition to "man pages" and "--help", I am finding the "read me
> > files" in "usr/share/doc/packages/" very helpful. I access them via
> > Konqueror. I have also found that in addition to SuSE, people like Togan
> > <http://dinamizm.ath.cx/> and the LINUX Documentation Project
> > <http://en.tldp.org/> have already answered many my questions.
> >
> > HTH
> > Gar
> >
> > *********
> >
> > DJ <linux_programmer@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >MG> I'd suggest you to try fou4s (http://fou4s.gaugusch.at/), it offers
> > > you MG> the possibility to install security fixes only (fou4s -is) as
> > > well as MG> automatic checking/downloading/updating. I think this
> > > functionality is in MG> YOU of SuSE 8.1, too, but yast2 online_update
> > > --help doesn't give any MG> information about it :(
> > >
> > >Thank you! I'm going to checkout fou4s. The documentation for SuSE is
> > >extremely lacking. Lots of errors in the manuals and lots of missing
> > >information. It seems like the documentation also has a hard time
> > >keeping current with the SuSE version.
> > >
> > >I just ran YOU in manual mode and there is no help wants so ever, that
> > >I could find. After the screen repainted with the downloaded
> > >information, I didn't have a clue what to do next. I posted in the
> > >suse-e list, so I don't want to take up any more of your time on YOU.
> > >
> > >I sure wish the SuSE specific documentation was better.
> > >
> > >I'm definitely going to look at fou4s.
> > >
> > >Thank you again.
> > >
> > >--
> > >__________________________
> > >DJ
> > >mailto: linux_programmer@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Check the headers for your unsubscription address
> > >For additional commands, e-mail: suse-security-help@xxxxxxxx
> > >Security-related bug reports go to security@xxxxxxx, not here
> >
> > __________________________________________________________________
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> > --
> > Check the headers for your unsubscription address
> > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-security-help@xxxxxxxx
> > Security-related bug reports go to security@xxxxxxx, not here
- --
Alex Levit
Senior Network Engineer
Kel-Tek Inc.
TEL: 626-571-6927
FAX: 626-571-8794
'Alex@xxxxxxxxxxx'
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On the subject of YOU, there are plenty of people using SuSE's YOU on this
list and we don't experience such problems. Look somewhere else for possible
problems.
a. Not enough memory
b. Bad Ram
c. Bad CPU
d. not enough swap space
On Wednesday 27 November 2002 08:09 am, Jim Westbrook wrote:
> On the subject of YOU, I had to reinstall a SuSE 7.3 last week. When I
> attempted to grab the YOU updates, the system crashed (no kybd response,
> etc.) requiring a cold boot recover. Once back to running, I tried YOU
> again, from the cli, and it again performed the package check then crashed
> the system.
>
> I then tried YOU on another SuSE 7.3 box - and after the package check it
> crashed that system as well. I've given up on YOU, but the alternative app
> doesn't work for me either. I'd really like to get all of the security
> updates installed on my boxes, but it looks like I'll have to ditch
> everything and install a different distro instead.
>
> JimW
>
> On 27 Nov 2002, at 2:07, GarUlbricht7@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > DJ: I am aware that your question got answered and this thread may be
> > already "beat to death" but I thought I would add my 2 cents.
> >
> > I agree that the first time I used YOU (Yast Online Update", I didn't
> > know what happened so I tried it again, and again....
> >
> > However,alot of the documentation is right there in the window. I agree
> > it only made sense to me after I had tried YOU several times to see what
> > happened.
> >
> > You may enjoy "fou4s" more, but if you decided to use YOU,
> > I suggest reading:
> > <file:/usr/share/doc/packages/yast2-config-online-update/y2c_online_updat
> >e.html
> >
> > > which should be on your system.
> >
> > In addition to "man pages" and "--help", I am finding the "read me
> > files" in "usr/share/doc/packages/" very helpful. I access them via
> > Konqueror. I have also found that in addition to SuSE, people like Togan
> > <http://dinamizm.ath.cx/> and the LINUX Documentation Project
> > <http://en.tldp.org/> have already answered many my questions.
> >
> > HTH
> > Gar
> >
> > *********
> >
> > DJ <linux_programmer@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >MG> I'd suggest you to try fou4s (http://fou4s.gaugusch.at/), it offers
> > > you MG> the possibility to install security fixes only (fou4s -is) as
> > > well as MG> automatic checking/downloading/updating. I think this
> > > functionality is in MG> YOU of SuSE 8.1, too, but yast2 online_update
> > > --help doesn't give any MG> information about it :(
> > >
> > >Thank you! I'm going to checkout fou4s. The documentation for SuSE is
> > >extremely lacking. Lots of errors in the manuals and lots of missing
> > >information. It seems like the documentation also has a hard time
> > >keeping current with the SuSE version.
> > >
> > >I just ran YOU in manual mode and there is no help wants so ever, that
> > >I could find. After the screen repainted with the downloaded
> > >information, I didn't have a clue what to do next. I posted in the
> > >suse-e list, so I don't want to take up any more of your time on YOU.
> > >
> > >I sure wish the SuSE specific documentation was better.
> > >
> > >I'm definitely going to look at fou4s.
> > >
> > >Thank you again.
> > >
> > >--
> > >__________________________
> > >DJ
> > >mailto: linux_programmer@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Check the headers for your unsubscription address
> > >For additional commands, e-mail: suse-security-help@xxxxxxxx
> > >Security-related bug reports go to security@xxxxxxx, not here
> >
> > __________________________________________________________________
> > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now!
> > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp
> >
> > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at
> > http://webmail.netscape.com/
> >
> > --
> > Check the headers for your unsubscription address
> > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-security-help@xxxxxxxx
> > Security-related bug reports go to security@xxxxxxx, not here
- --
Alex Levit
Senior Network Engineer
Kel-Tek Inc.
TEL: 626-571-6927
FAX: 626-571-8794
'Alex@xxxxxxxxxxx'
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