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Re: [suse-security] Is it possible to return something, so Nimda would crash?
  • From: Steffen Dettmer <steffen@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 00:58:46 +0200
  • Message-id: <20010924005846.A7779@xxxxxxxxx>
* Kurt Seifried wrote on Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 14:10 -0600:
> > But in the case of LaBrea you do not do anything against the other
> > computer. It is more like your neighbour allways parks his car in
> > your garage and you make the entrance smaller so that your car will
> > still fit in but his car will not.

I think it's more likely to put a red traffic light before with a
sign telling "please wait for green before enter". I see no
attack when sending very small windows; I cannot see why it's an
attack telling someone "please wait - I have no time to talk with
you at the moment". Well, I think me or someone other has
misunderstood the thing...

> Claiming ignorance ("I didn't know Labrea would crash his PC")
> will be tricky as in many courts with a civil suit you have to
> prove your innocence.

Why should a PC crash when receiving small windows? Probably it
was just a power fail. And if someone means to run a PC which
crashs on some packets, it's herselfs fault; and keep in mind
that this is not meant as an attack. If some machine crashed if I
accidently try telnet 1234 on it, I appologize but nothing more.

> BTW analogies suck.

You mean, you personally think that some analogies might be
missleading for somebody. But there are people which need
analogies to understand a problem...

> This is nothing like car parking/trespassing.

Well, I cannot imagine why someone would try to drive in a too
small garage. But I cannot imagine why some OS should crash on
small windows. Hum, looks like an analogy :)

oki,

Steffen

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