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Re: [suse-security] What is this???
- From: Oliver Hensel <oliver.hensel@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:21:16 +0200 (CEST)
- Message-id: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0010141915190.11588-100000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Gerhard Sittig wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 15:01 +0200, Oliver Hensel wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Gerhard Sittig wrote: [snip]
> > >
> > > Somebody at MS had the bright idea to say "if we don't have /
> > > don't get an address, we simply dice us one." That's when
> > > they use the IPs you can see above. Watch the "wide" netmask
> > > and the broadcast for "the other unconfigured machines"!
> > > Seems MS wants to cope with ignorant environments and even
> > > run when not setup correctly ...
> >
> > Better would be to power the system automatically down?
>
> No, just to not scream out into the net "who else doesn't have a
> valid config?". It's just that simple: If you don't get one,
> you don't have one. And without an IP you just dont take part in
> networking conversations.
>
Yes, true. But it's meant specifically for those small offices with
up to 10 hosts who don't have a network admin. Since MS is
"upgrading" NetBEUI to TCP/IP (which is good, IMHO), every host needs an
IP. But the customer shouldn't have to know or even think about IPs. I
don't subscribe to the World According To Microsoft (TM)(R)(C), but I can
think of situations where this can be useful.
Greetings
olli
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<ohensel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
http://www.ohensel.de/
Training + Consulting
Unix - Linux - Firewalls - Security
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> On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 15:01 +0200, Oliver Hensel wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Gerhard Sittig wrote: [snip]
> > >
> > > Somebody at MS had the bright idea to say "if we don't have /
> > > don't get an address, we simply dice us one." That's when
> > > they use the IPs you can see above. Watch the "wide" netmask
> > > and the broadcast for "the other unconfigured machines"!
> > > Seems MS wants to cope with ignorant environments and even
> > > run when not setup correctly ...
> >
> > Better would be to power the system automatically down?
>
> No, just to not scream out into the net "who else doesn't have a
> valid config?". It's just that simple: If you don't get one,
> you don't have one. And without an IP you just dont take part in
> networking conversations.
>
Yes, true. But it's meant specifically for those small offices with
up to 10 hosts who don't have a network admin. Since MS is
"upgrading" NetBEUI to TCP/IP (which is good, IMHO), every host needs an
IP. But the customer shouldn't have to know or even think about IPs. I
don't subscribe to the World According To Microsoft (TM)(R)(C), but I can
think of situations where this can be useful.
Greetings
olli
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Oliver Hensel <oliver.hensel@xxxxxxx>
<ohensel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
http://www.ohensel.de/
Training + Consulting
Unix - Linux - Firewalls - Security
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