Hello, Roman about your idea with the moderated list: In some points I must agree to what you said, but IMHO we should try to keep this list open and not moderated. On the other side, if the postings about non-security-related topics and similar things keep on, I must also agree that moderation of the list is the only way to get these things away from the list. So, people, please try to focus on security-related topics when posting to this list and handle all other things in private email ! ... just my 2 cents ... --- -------------------------------------------- Stephan M. Ott // OKDesign oHG Internet-Providing und Netzwerkmanagement smo@okdesign.de ..... http://www.okdesign.de fon. +49 961 3814139 .. fax. +49 961 3814140 mobil 0171-8351130 ... oder ... 0171-7858064 --------------------------------------------
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Roman Drahtmueller [mailto:draht@suse.de] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. August 2000 16:08 An: suse-security@suse.de Betreff: [suse-security] RFC: - moderation -
From: Eduardo Carriles
To: SuSE Security Mail List Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:08:48 +0200 Subject: Re: [suse-security] SuSE security reputation, etc.. [Thread STATS] Reply-To: sofronia@teleline.es Hi Friends,
[FYI] I did just to inform you, and as a small exercise, some manual processing on posts to this _thread_ and those where the [STATS] found as of today.
Hi Eduardo,
We certainly appreciate your eagerness wrt to the statistics you posted, as it is quite interesting to look at.
However, this is a rather administrative subject, and it doesn't belong here, as much as questions about SuSE's support for packages where the license has changed or things that are actually subject to reading an FAQ.
Subscribers might have noticed the increasing amount of non-security related material in the list, as well as increasing volume every day or the other. This brings up the question if the list should go moderated or not.
Taking the risk that the follow-ups will cause a considerable amount of noise on the list, this question needs an answer. I'd like to hear your thoughts about the idea as well as the list policy. It is designed to be very open and targets the list to become more valuable as an information source and discussion platform, with a small noise ratio and an acceptable volume.
Please feel free to answer personally to me if you don't wish your name to be published with your opinion.
--------------------------------------- * Spam gets blackholed.
* Postings that are not related to security will not pass. Exception: Sometimes threads evolve and provide valuable information around an issue that is not closely related to security.
* Postings with commercial nature such as announcements of new versions of commercial software in the security field will pass but will be marked as such with an addition in the Subject: line in the header.
* Postings with critical content, regardless of the critizism's target, be it SuSE, another Linux vendor or even hardware manufacturers, _will_ be posted. It is needless to say that the claim of being independent requires this allegation.
* As usual, postings will _not_ be modified, authors are responsible for the content. If you post something, be aware that something that has been written and published can't be redrawn easily. Polite style almost always provides the basis for productive critizism, harsh accusations make people angry.
*** * I want to point out that moderation does _not_ equal to censorship! In some (hopefully) rare (f.ex. when a thread becomes too far off-topic or a flamewar blazes) cases it might be neccessary to kill a thread, or to collect the last responses for a thread and post them in a single mail. ***
* Meta-postings (concerning the list) will always be answered but might not pass. If the posting addresses the list policy, it _must_ pass.
Postings would be chained into the list in the same sequence as they arrive.
Roman. -- - - | Roman Drahtmüller
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