Hi, I'm evaluating porting OBS to rails 3 and while there are tons of annoying problems, that are ugly to fix but are "just work", I have a real problem with the now deprecated find functions. Let's take an example: attribs.find(:first, :joins => "LEFT OUTER JOIN attrib_types at ON attribs.attrib_type_id = at.id LEFT OUTER JOIN attrib_namespaces an ON at.attrib_namespace_id = an.id", :conditions => ["at.name = BINARY ? and an.name = BINARY ? and attribs.binary = BINARY ?", name, namespace, binary]) That's find_attribute and worked ok in rails 2.3 - it's a pretty huge join and a rather useless big result, but ok. Now with rails 3, find(:first) is not only deprecated but also joins set the result to readonly, so I can't do an update to Attrib. What I did (after a lot of trial and error and googling around was): a = attribs.joins(:attrib_type => :attrib_namespace).where("attrib_types.name = BINARY ? and attrib_namespaces.name = BINARY ? and ISNULL(attribs.binary)", name, namespace).first a = attribs.where(:id => a.id).first if a && a.readonly? I found the existing documentating I could find rather unpleasant, they always only cover simple cases or examples I don't understand ;( Does anyone have a recommendation for such "at the limits" cases? Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org