Le 02/08/2015 16:21, Richard Brown a wrote :
We can, and should be, something special for ourselves, our current users, and our future users.
The sentence that end your post (quoted), do not say nothing about power user or makers (I like this sentence, begin it by "as a project")... I think people join a project to have they work spread to as many users as possible. The first time (well before joining openSUSE, it was in the 90's) than somebody asked me "can you host your docs in my web site", my answer was "why?" and he said: "to get more visibility and readers" and I went there. http://www.linux-france.org/article/jdanield/ I stopped to contribute to the wiki when my work was destroyed by "wiki team" wanting to "make order". Removing *and deleting* the french forum confirmed I was right not to trust openSUSE for this. I now store my doc myself. One of the first thing I learned about the web is "do not ever delete a web page". Notice I'm not offended by that, I just regret to have lost some doc. The word "marketing" is misleading, we should not use it at all. As you said, openSUSE do not make money (let SUSE do that), so have no market. We have to ask us how we can make people comfortable in the openSUSE project. In the open source world, every body do exactly what he wants no what you (or me) want. People that interest us for the project are not developers, they will come if we give them interesting tools, that's all. You will never make ubuntu devs come in openSUSE with marketing arguments. they will open an OBS account, but continue work in ubuntu. What we need are some people that accept to work in a *team* to make openSUSE "something special", following the goals of the project, not they own goal. I sincerely think that the only thing that can make people accept to work for non personal interest is to reach the larger audience possible. "Come and work with us, working as part of the openSUSE project will make YOU part of something special, the openSUSE project..." And, by the way, I'm of this sort and I will continue to work for the openSUSE project, as long as I think it's special :-) thanks for your own work and the momentum you give to the project jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org