June 2015 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] letter to people not accepted to be a member
by jdd 24 Jul '15

24 Jul '15

Hello, I do not have at hand the letter that is received by people asking to be a member but with no or nearly no contribution, and so refused. I think this letter is much too rude, and that it's a waste of good will not to make some sort of follow up. There are not so many :-) I can try to do so. I propose to have a letter of this sort (very incomplete, please read and comment) https://en.opensuse.org/User:Jdd/letter_to_people_asking_to_be_a_member_2015 do we have a forum/mailing list that we could ask such people to subscribe? "opensuse@" seems to me much to intimidating :-) thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] How to name the baby
by Robert Schweikert 03 Jul '15

03 Jul '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Oh no, not another lengthy thread.... I am afraid it is going to be, but hopefully we can stick to the topic and only focus on the name. A brief summary: Stephan as the release manager has decided that he will concentrate on building a distribution around the project known as openSUSE:42. In [1] he also tried to start the discussion about the naming of the new distro. However, this did get sidetracked rather quickly, thus, please focus on naming only. - - Not all questions for the new release have been answered, we do not need to revisit this. Some answers will only emerge as the baby starts to crawl and then walk.... - - Just because Stephan will take on the release manager responsibilities of a distro around the SLE sources does not preclude another person or team to build/release... a distro based on Factory snapshots. As the distribution is a representation of the project as a whole, i.e. all contributors, I think it is fair that people get an opportunity to weigh in with their concerns. This view may not be shared by everyone, so please bare with the rest of us as your mailbox once again fills up ;) However, to those participating in the discussion please focus on the name not on side issues. It has been advocated in other threads that a vote on the name should be considered as the final solution. There are reasonable arguments for and against such a direction. Thus, lets not focus on the voting part at this point either, lets just focus on the name and see where the discussion goes. If this should or should not be voted on can be a separate discussion once we collectively understand the concerns people have with respect to the name. In a "thread renaming" post we have had the following suggestion: * openSUSE Oak """" So how about Oak? It's a solid tree, it fits with the green theme and it will give us: * openSUSE Tumbleweed * openSUSE Oak """" "openSLES" has also been suggested a few times but lets just say that we will probably run afoul with a number of legal restrictions. Plus it is not really SLES, it is based on SLES sources and not a verbatim build of the SLES sources. My suggestion would be to focus on the name while considering that we should not create a name that would produce a potential conflict as described in [2], also consider the reply [3] So please lets focus on the name the child might have. State your case for the name you propose, include in the proposal a numbering scheme, if you think we should stick with numbers. Staring at 1 for a numbering scheme has rather obvious disadvantages, all other numbers are probably equally arbitrary, but you can certainly state the case why the number being proposed is favorable. I propose the above as the guidelines for the naming discussion. I will add my personal opinion about the name as a follow up post. Lets see if I can manage to stay within my own proposed guidelines ;) I apologize to those that are subscribed to both the -factory and the - -project list. However I know that there are a number of people that are not following -project but follow -factory, thus the cross post. As I mentioned, I believe that the distribution represents all of us and thus everyone should have their chance to weigh in on the name given to the baby that represents the community. Let the fun begin. Robert [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2015-06/msg00203.html [2] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-06/msg00278.html [3] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-06/msg00280.html - -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU Public Cloud Architect LINUX rjschwei(a)suse.com IRC: robjo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVgJlWAAoJEE4FgL32d2UkO9gH/i/TzZ9ayW2m2LAOryTk1mPT 4nViWBbxPH9NA1QVMlTc+bGpauuny7VWDz1GSZgF6aNXu8RQA+FJ914H3DOOiGJP C8y8Ik2aLikWOjVU/ZkF9F3YOY/Qt/gdia1LVJQnz5l5EsA98vjLpjNjV3grDlTy jmwogwCrR8WUoPx2YPompuqxePeZTjNFcQpa5i76TQhXj+afX5FKKVxSlWQlra8Q iS+h/3ke+28hUvAAeSQk3ufbfiuSN+93JX7R01N/Ni+03KX5CR0asTk+Go2KZ91F aQnaEXNeWWVyAB21GOcAe5m5duKWgkB59A0Wu3EjiS4Y+2+kRssZ38dF8Y/dLrI= =183F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] tsp reimbursement
by jdd 30 Jun '15

30 Jun '15

hello, did somebody receive the tsp reimbursement for the OSC-15? I can wait, but the official delay is long overdue thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] How to name the baby
by Jay 30 Jun '15

30 Jun '15

OK, guys and girls, just as an alternative for those of you who can't warm up to LEAP or other names provided so far, here are two more (and my last) suggestions from my idea-sheet and some associations that may go with them. I'm sure, you will find the drawbacks yourself: openSUSE Emerald - dark-green - solid - durable (long term idea) - transparent - precious, a gem - "our finest" - something you want to have - something you want to keep openSUSE Base - solid - good starting point - something to build on - rather neutral - down to earth - factual - short - for work/business Have a good week! Rainer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] 42 release
by Douglas DeMaio 29 Jun '15

29 Jun '15

Hi all, Please help us get the news about the next openSUSE regular release - http://bit.ly/1HjnkkB I encourage you to makes some creative images or videos related to 42, the answer to everything, and post them to your social media pages or blogs. Ideally, it would be cool if we can make change all the images on https://duckduckgo.com/?q=42&ia=images to images with openSUSE 42. Let's dominate the image space and then we can conquer the next phase when we agree on a name that shows how elite/superior the next release will be. -- Respectfully, Douglas DeMaio douglas.demaio(a)suse.com "In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing." - Theodore Roosevelt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] tsp reimbursement
by Amey Abhyankar 29 Jun '15

29 Jun '15

On 23 June 2015 at 18:10, Saurabh Sood <saurabhsood91(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Not yet. It does take some time, so awaiting further updates. > >snip< >> On 23 June 2015 at 16:40, jdd <jdd(a)dodin.org> wrote: >snip< >>> did somebody receive the tsp reimbursement for the OSC-15? Today I got e-mail from TSP stating = This reimbursement was paid on 24th June ^_^ Now waiting for confirmation 4m my b@nk. >snip< >>> thanks >>> jdd >>> -- Regards, Amey. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] 6 : less than 40 different ppl did send a mail on this list ...
by Françoise Wybrecht 24 Jun '15

24 Jun '15

since january 2014 (18 months). (the last one ... ) I have no numbers on the factory mailing list ... but I'm quite sure than (once more) : the technical decisions are more motivating than the project or the marketing. Logical ! Evident ! Sharing and communicating on a mailing list ... is a non-sense when we do nothing else then giving different points of vue. Slow & slow, most ppl go back to their priorities and shut up. I cannot change that ...and I honnestly don't know who can or could. As said ... when we just go on talking and in fact, nothing change, everybody will logically just contribuate to the distribution, and forget the community (project). Yes, it was the fun ... Is it still fun ? Was it the fun ? I don't know, I hope yes. Last year, I discovered what "being welcomed" mean in an openSource community, and for sure it was great ! And for sure, openSUSE project have many forces and quality, but not communication & welcoming. That's it. Perhaps it's not very important ? openSUSE distribution is great ... that's for sure. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] tsp reimbursement
by Saurabh Sood 23 Jun '15

23 Jun '15

Not yet. It does take some time, so awaiting further updates. On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Amey Abhyankar <sco1984(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 23 June 2015 at 16:40, jdd <jdd(a)dodin.org> wrote: >> >> hello, > > > Namaste, >> >> >> did somebody receive the tsp reimbursement for the OSC-15? >> > Same here. > I thought me being from non EU country, TSP reimbursement processing is > taking time :-) > The last update I received was on 18th May as follows:- > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > reimbursement #xx is in processed (by administrative, payment is ongoing) > state since Mon, 18 May 2015 0x:xx:xx +0000 > > The reimbursement must be confirmed after completing the payment. > > At May 18, 2015 08:27, APossamai did process it with the following notes: > > This reimbursement was forwarded to Accounts Payable on 18th May, 2015. Best > regards, Anna (xyz(a)suse.com) > > To access the related information, just follow the link below: > http://connect.opensuse.org/travel-support/requests/xx/reimbursement > > -- > openSUSE Travel Support Program > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > @jdd: You also received similar update? > @Saurabh: You received the TSP reimbursement for oSC15? > >> >> I can wait, but the official delay is long overdue > > > Normally 1 month is taken to process the reimbursement. [Assuming working > calender days i.e. 5 days a week] > We may need to wait for few more days. :-) > Marking TSP team in cc just for FYI purpose. ^_^ > > Regards, > Amey. [India] >> >> >> thanks >> jdd >> -- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org >> To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org >> > -- Regards,. Saurabh Sood Have a lot of fun! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Clarification, please. SLE v SLES
by PatrickD Garvey 22 Jun '15

22 Jun '15

During the various discussions about some source code provided by SUSE LLC to openSUSE, two similar phrases have been used "SLE sources" and "SLES sources" as if they are interchangeable. In the original posting by Richard Brown [1], he very specifically said, "SUSE is preparing to pro-actively release a significant portion of the SUSE Linux Enterprise source code, including a regular stream of maintenance updates, to the openSUSE Project." Thank you, Richard, for your precision. From that, I understood that SUSE LLC was releasing the sources used to create SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop _and_ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. Is that a correct understanding? If yes, please, everyone, use the phrase "SLE sources" to fully communicate what is being generously provided by SUSE LLC. Using the phrase "SLES sources" leads me to deduce one would _have_ to add other sources to properly support a desktop (laptops included) implementation. 1. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-04/msg00104.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Quick SLES question...
by Mathias Homann 22 Jun '15

22 Jun '15

Hi, Does SLES use systemd, and if so since which release? Cheers MH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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