-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/09/2015 08:21 AM, Cornelius Schumacher wrote:
On Thursday 04 June 2015 08:13:59 Michal Hrusecky wrote:
We discussed this topic at not so recent openSUSE Board Face to Face meeting and touched it on oSC 15 during project meeting. Also taking under consideration the responses that were provided to a similar topic approximately 2 years ago, we (in the board) think it would be a good idea to implement something to help with that. Automatically monitor openSUSE Members activity on mailing lists, OBS, bugzilla, maybe more. Remember when we last saw openSUSE Member on any of those channels and if he doesn't show for for example one year, we can send him e-mail asking whether he still wants to be a member with a link to click to create artificial activity for the automat. And if he doesn't click on it in let's say month, we will retire him - he will be moved to openSUSE retired geekos group. If he comes back and want to be member again or if he was retired by accident, he can be made member again by just clicking on the link from the mail or by asking membership committee and they will approve him without any additional questions.
Automatic monitoring of general activity is difficult, error-prone, and can have all kind of unintended social side effects. It would need quite some effort.
I am not certain about the "social side-effects" but I am certain we will have people voice their preference for not being monitored. I do agree that it is effort but the monitoring is probably the gentler approach as opposed to the "vote monitoring", more on this below.
A much simpler way would be to just use participation in votes as a criteria. This also would be directly tied to what the membership is about.
I have no problem with this approach, but ...
We could do something like putting everybody who hasn't voted for two consecutive board elections into an emeritus state without voting rights. This would keep the membership with voting rights to the active people.
The last time we had this proposal on the table, i.e. "vote or else", people had very strong concerns about the impression that they are being forced to vote to keep their membership active. Times change and maybe monitoring who votes is the lesser "evil" of a what ends up being some kind of monitoring solution. Of course the simplest solution is still to send out an e-mail once a year to have people click a link if they are still interested in being an openSUSE member. This however may set the bar a little to low as it basically requires no effort. Personally I favor the overall activity monitoring. The side effect of this should be that it makes it easier for the membership team to collect info for new application verification. Later, Robert - -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU Public Cloud Architect LINUX rjschwei@suse.com IRC: robjo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVdvOYAAoJEE4FgL32d2UkQroH/1v7VD1QBagKKpV3zUryeUfh tZsFFpbalzwMqWIBzVD57ZTLiYUIBUGTycqsWNr+EqiwyUd1mbJ3/A6bKEfQ/eCd B/Zwy7jCahamj6VhLHxDCe/Lm0S623Eq1eGRRwfNUZwpdPOAF1OKHR1LbaEWjeJX ek4DLK599hNVAMiD2Tktw0r9z7fTW8dkGWTiijHdB88RJ4+aeY0VzLNXPf/SyfL3 8HqL1fJvXcKmAzZowz+Z2o8APhmy5uuLOsP5NETF4cH23ivoyuTKl0hrJFl0mbcI 0JYDV7IFKmZeVrOUObNghuhRLfZi55sq2+aGr2A46Nw5WZdRgV9pMw2QQKtds5M= =HATC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org