On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 13:11:46 -0400, Robert Schweikert wrote:
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On 06/03/2015 11:22 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 12:42:41 -0400, Robert Schweikert wrote:
In a way, you could say it's about a 'marketing spin' - provide a positive message that says the same thing, rather than a negative message that pushes people away.
I very much doubt that anyone will argue against better presentation, improved wording look and feel. Thus, someone who feels strongly please go fix the page, instead of saying "it's not nice".
It seems that that's what the discussion is about - trying to fix the page, but not doing so unilaterally - instead, asking the community for input, which has led to a discussion about the membership stuff in general.
Fair enough, but someone still has to act and do something. We can talk about how "nice it would be to fix the wiki" until we are all tiered and irritated. Thus in the hopes to end the beating around the bush inactivity, I removed most of the "Red" that appeared to be an issue to some people and modified the introduction on the page. Plus some other changes.
Sure, eventually someone needs to change something. But how would the board feel if someone just went in and started changing stuff about project processes without any discussion at all? I (or anyone else) could just go start changing stuff, and maybe piss a bunch of people off in the process. Better to have some discussion *first* about what changes the project thinks are appropriate. This isn't something that's like patching a bug in a network driver. This is more like deciding that the entire network subsystem needs to be rewritten from scratch. Before doing that, you need to gather requirements.
I left 1 warning (red), which was added by me, I think, a couple of years ago when we first had the discussion about maintaining the membership status. A similar discussion has been started by Michal, see the "openSUSE Members retirement" thread. We can fix this part of the page when that discussion concludes.
So, head on over to
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members
to see if that goes in the right direction and if you think its worse than previously, oh well, everyone had a chance to start with the change s.
I'm happy to see what jdd and the others who are spending time working on it come up with. I'm also happy to provide input and feedback on the proposed changes (which is how I'm contributing to this). I'm not in a position to *own* the process, nor am I part of the membership team (nor do I have time to join another team). Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org