Hey, On 08.12.2013 21:23, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Friday 06 December 2013 22:33:03 Adam Spiers wrote:
Henne Vogelsang (hvogel@opensuse.org) wrote: <snip>
You have to be very careful with that, you can easily destroy communities with it.
Agreed.
Henne, that was a fantastically useful and well-thought out post
I concur, this was an insightful post.
Thanks, it just happens to be that gamification is one of my pipe-dreams for the OBS so I researched it a bit. There are other great summaries about this topic like Aza Raskin's: "Behavior Change Checklist" [1] or all of the works from Sebastian Deterding [2].
What I was hoping to achieve with this discussion is to get some kind of agreement that, despite the possible downsides, there are aspects of karma-ish things we could use for good. I personally really do believe that.
Well we all can agree or disagree on possibilities, it doesn't really matter.
I think we all agree that making contributions more visible is a good idea with few, if any, downsides. I would suggest to start there. Show on OBS projects how many users it has, show on user pages what he/she does in openSUSE: plain and simple 'making things more visible'.
This proposal sounds much more like the "collect, display and see what happens" approach. And while it might be proposed with good intentions this approach is the usual way gamification goes awfully wrong, discourages people and produces other unwanted results. You really have to think hard about what you want to encourage, how you will encourage it and what the compulsion loop looks like. How about we start with collecting and discussing ideas about that? Like this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArMbkBL7n3y4dFpoekNKMldzeE5Wc3p... Henne [1] http://schedule.sxsw.com/2011/events/event_IAP000453 [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZGCPap7GkY -- Henne Vogelsang http://www.opensuse.org Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org