Hi Agustin, On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:53 PM, agustin benito bethencourt <abebe@suse.com> wrote:
Hi,
For me, openSUSE Team should not be the "DOER" but should be the "ENABLER"
What I feel now is this, them forward.
- I believe the intentions from the openSUSE team are well thought.
- Since they are well thought and already thought, we should just put
- openSUSE Team will take community feedback but will not respond to it.
Give us some more time. We are willing to prove you wrong.
Sure :)
- Instead, we will think about it and do it ourselves, this excludes
>> a lot of community proposals.
We bring this kamafication knowing it has been discussed before. Michal for instance have been involved in the GSoC around this in Connect. The intention is not to make it look new, but to include it in the new context, since we really would like to put our hands on it these following months.
Problem with this now is, it perfectly fits our "Just Do it" policy but are you really creating space for someone who can replace you when you feel like?
Do you guys really want to take the "My way or highway route"?
What I had really prefer was chipping in the proposal that Klaas and others bought in, since it was very much on the mentoring topic, and that would have been so much better.
The proposal I sent includes the word mentoring right? This is an intentions declaration. But we are focusing now in the topics we think must be done first.
I understand that
I understand for you the priority is the mentoring topic, and for many others probably. But please do not get upset with us because we publish the things we wold like to work on if we come to agreements.
Off course, and yes it is not just because of mentoring, see below on karma and membership, most of the things are there, and I believe you must know it by now, I have my take on them as well.
In any case, we have one or two more topics to go before proposing the "how". we can look for an alternative way of publishing if you think so. Our team blog is an option. I wonder how we could get feedback though.
We are quiet busy digesting the feedback at the moment, commenting the suggestions, talking to people about the ideas, summarizing....
It is the same with us, so allow us time, remember that we have lives other than openSUSE, bombarding everyone suddenly will frustate most of us. One after the other suggestion is getting too much for me atleast and overbearing.
Saludos
Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe@suse.com
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