On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 15:41 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:18:13 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
If you care about our release schedule and technologies we'll ship (including systemd and such, yes), make sure you're there.
Jos -
I don't think it's necessarily a fair assumption that if you can't be there, it's because you don't care.
In defense of Jos, I think he simply botched his own writing. I don't think he meant to imply that if you don't show up, you don't care. Probably better worded if said "if you care and you can find a way to make it to the Conference..."
I would /love/ to be there, but even with the travel program, as a contract employee/consultant, the cost of travel isn't my main consideration - the loss of income, as the only vacation time I get is unpaid. There's not just a financial cost, but an opportunity cost - and as much as I support the project, paying the bills has to be my top priority. :)
There needs to be an alternative for those who do care but can't attend an in-person event in order to get their input involved.
I think slowly but surely, we're finding ways to do this. We have oSC coming up next month, Summit this weekend, COSCUP mini-openSUSE Conference in Taipei last month. Last year we made our first community appearance at Brainshare where we met you. We're showing up at more FOSS events than ever before. We may not have perfected yet how to leverage these in-person dialogues more effectively on a global basis, but I think we're getting there. Lessons are being learned and retooled as we go along.
Even a Google Hangout scheduled, or some time set aside on the IRC project channel would help get input from those who want to be involved.
Hangout only allows ten connections. I think Hangout can be used in some situations, but not as a replacement to a large conference gathering. We need to continue to explore ways to communicate with our community and users across many borders, cultures, and languages.
Jim
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