Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (213 mails)

[Robert Schweikert <rjschwei@xxxxxxxx>]

On 03/08/2012 04:33 PM, Pascal Bleser wrote:
> I'd like to propose or at least discuss dropping the bi-weekly
> openSUSE project meetings on IRC.
>
> Reasons are:
> * because of timezones, work/family/etc, only a handful of
>    people is able to attend the meetings (and there is no
>    solution to that);
> * as far as I've been attending those meetings (so that's a few
>    years now already), there have always been 5 or 6 people who
>    have participated (aside from the board team);
> * there is nothing that is discussed there that couldn't be
>    discussed on the opensuse-project mailing list instead.
>
> Now, that meeting also acts as a board meeting, but
> * the board can still meet, that's up to the board team to
>    define;
> * anyone can poke the board team any time via email or poke us
>    individually on IRC;
> * as far as transparency is concerned, we can, should and will
>    publish emails about our decisions and our work anyway.
>
> Any reason to keep the IRC project meetings?
> I don't see any, even though I'm quite fond of IRC ;)
>
> cheers

Yes, maybe we can accomplish everything we do in the IRC meeting on the 
ML. However, I like the meeting and I think we should keep it.

- On the ML we inevitably get bikeshedding and shouting as there are 
plenty of people that just type crap to annoy others, or they have issue 
focusing on the topic at hand, or.... Yes I know, there's an agreement 
to actively target those people and encourage them to be constructive 
participants or go away, still I think this is a problem of moving 
everything to the ML.

- The IRC meeting provides a level of interactivity that the ML can not.

- IRC meeting also give people an opportunity to just pop in, lurk and 
get a feel for things without having to subscribe to a ML.

- Just addressing things on the ML is tricky. Take the recent membership 
lapse discussion as an example. We had two more or less productive 
rather lengthy threads. Based on these we now have a proposed addition 
to the members page to describe "Membership Maintenance". Agreement on 
the next step on this topic took 5 or 10 minutes in the meeting. On the 
ML it would have probably triggered yet another long thread with 
potentially many repeated arguments from the  first two threads.

My $0.02
Robert

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