On 03/08/2012 04:33 PM, Pascal Bleser wrote:
I'd like to propose or at least discuss dropping the bi-weekly openSUSE project meetings on IRC.
Reasons are: * because of timezones, work/family/etc, only a handful of people is able to attend the meetings (and there is no solution to that); * as far as I've been attending those meetings (so that's a few years now already), there have always been 5 or 6 people who have participated (aside from the board team); * there is nothing that is discussed there that couldn't be discussed on the opensuse-project mailing list instead.
Now, that meeting also acts as a board meeting, but * the board can still meet, that's up to the board team to define; * anyone can poke the board team any time via email or poke us individually on IRC; * as far as transparency is concerned, we can, should and will publish emails about our decisions and our work anyway.
Any reason to keep the IRC project meetings? I don't see any, even though I'm quite fond of IRC ;)
cheers
Yes, maybe we can accomplish everything we do in the IRC meeting on the ML. However, I like the meeting and I think we should keep it. - On the ML we inevitably get bikeshedding and shouting as there are plenty of people that just type crap to annoy others, or they have issue focusing on the topic at hand, or.... Yes I know, there's an agreement to actively target those people and encourage them to be constructive participants or go away, still I think this is a problem of moving everything to the ML. - The IRC meeting provides a level of interactivity that the ML can not. - IRC meeting also give people an opportunity to just pop in, lurk and get a feel for things without having to subscribe to a ML. - Just addressing things on the ML is tricky. Take the recent membership lapse discussion as an example. We had two more or less productive rather lengthy threads. Based on these we now have a proposed addition to the members page to describe "Membership Maintenance". Agreement on the next step on this topic took 5 or 10 minutes in the meeting. On the ML it would have probably triggered yet another long thread with potentially many repeated arguments from the first two threads. My $0.02 Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org