Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (317 mails)

[Bryen M Yunashko <suserocks@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 14:17 +0100, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> On Thursday, January 19, 2012 00:29:59 Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 2012-01-18 at 22:15 +0100, DenverD wrote:
> > > On 01/18/2012 08:52 PM, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
> > > > I was trying to point out that the reasoning behind taking part
> > > > in this protest promoting a certain politica agenda (no matter
> > > > how well intended) is rather arbitrary and the said slippery
> > > > slope.
> > > > And I'm rather surprised the board is even entitled to make
> > > > decisions about such matters which are at best peripherally
> > > > related to openSUSE on behalf of the project.
> > >
> > > i agree and suggest the board grossly overstepped their authority and
> > > their irresponsible behavior should be dealt with in some appropriate
> > > fashion...their removal would not be any more radical than their
> > > decision to jump into USA politics..
> > >
> > > btw i am very anti-SOPA/PIPA but that is a private individual matter
> > > between me (as a citizen) and my government....this Community and its
> > > Board has _no_ standing in this matter whatsoever...in fact it is
> > > almost as childish to go black for a day as it is for the US government
> > > to think it can control the net in the first place...they do not have a
> > > clue.
> >
> > I agree, too.
> >
> > I may agree with the decission, but not in the form. The board can not
> > decide for all in something so important as taking a political stance.
>
> Ooh, get over it. And the same goes for Guido, Denver and Per, by the way. 
> Blah Blah Blah.
>
> A significant proportion of our user- and contributor base could be cut off 
> from our websites due to some ridiculous law in the USA. Half the web, 
> including sites like Wikipedia, is going black. In a public IRC meeting the 
> board takes the consensus on the channel and decides (on short notice, there 
> was little time) to join the worldwide protest. They did what they should do 
> - 
> as board. And you all voted for them to make decisions like these, so get of 
> their backs and into your cage.
>
> IF you have serious issues, send them to the board in private, don't bikeshed.
>
> Esp Denver - "irresponsible behavior of the board" - dude, take your happy 
> pills. You guys are, as usual, shooting with a canon at a flee at 2 feet 
> distance and honestly it is getting VERY tiring.
>
> Instead of bikeshedding, load http://bit.ly/xY4Mzs and be useful.

Ahh, but Jos, what they're doing is actually productive.   See, it's
called reverse psychology.  The supposed-detractors actually want the
rest of us to be more firmly in support of the board action to strike.
If you notice, any time a good strong and valid point is made on this
thread in favor of the strike, these same people increase their
rhetoric.  It can only be assumed therefore that reverse psychology is
in play and that they're purposely playing the role of a SOPA proponent
by highlighting how weak and senseless the proponents claims have
been.   

It's a job well done, and I congratulate Per especially for this
ingenious ploy.  He has a greater handle on how to solidify the
community than I could have ever imagined.   I'm amazed and appreciative
at the same time.

Your ulterior motive is resolved and we can all go back to work now.
Thanks guys!  

Bryen M Yunashko


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