Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (317 mails)

[Jim Henderson <hendersj@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:32:55 +0100, K. Dennis Leyendecker wrote:

> On 18.01.2012 20:06, Jim Henderson wrote:
> > Do we have a large number of contributors from China currently
> > participating in the project?  Do we have a large installed userbase in
> > China?
>
> afaik no. But I'd like to be convinced otherwise.

As would I. :)

> > Certainly the "Great Firewall of China" needs to be dealt with, but
> > there is a significant difference between the US and China.
> >
> > The US is supposedly a "free" country.  But due process and other core
> > principles of US freedoms are under attack by laws like SOPA, DMCA,
> > PIPA,
> > etc.  And those changes in US law have implications outside the US.
>
> Well, it's not just the them, it's also almost everything released by
> the Bush government that decline US citizen's freedom and rights. SOPA
> is just the next step towards total censorship.

I think there's enough blame to go around, and at this stage, pointing 
fingers isn't going to help or move the discussion forward.

> > It's curious that you would equate the two situations - because they're
> > very,*very*  different.  They're only similar in that they're about
> > censorship by the government.  But the historical backgrounds of the
> > two countries are very, very different.
> >
> > That doesn't mean what happens in China is right.  It isn't.
>
> Totally agree. I'd like to protest against China's government too, but
> if we would do so, we would need to protest against everything, so no
> work wouldn't be done anymore. Btw, we're not the only ones who are
> protesting against it, right? Is there a list of protesters anywhere?

I saw a site earlier today with a list of supporters - in fact, I think 
the site that the openSUSE site points to includes a list.  The Register 
had a link to a site as well, and I think Google did as well.  Wikipedia 
may well have a link to a list, too.

It's not just us, that's for sure.

Jim
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